“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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How did YOU conquer Approach/Coversation....?

Malachi

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Ok so there are alot us guy's who have ****s but really don't use them alot as were **** at..or won't or even afraid to approach that would find some comfort in hearing how the real dj's on this forum managed to conquer the approach, and the conversation that follow's...like i guess chat-up line or the first few sentences i guess.

I do approach every now and again, when the op is there and i'm not feeling like a wimp....but i think i fail on the conversation side of this...just want to know how you guy's managed.

Please don't direct me to the bible which i've read a few times...i wanna get FRESH opinions....as times change and so do people.

-Malachi

ON A SIDE NOTE: i send that i was a skinny guy who couldn't gain weight....i've now gained like 3-4lbs....not much, but to someone who finds it impossible to gain weight...it's good!.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Distant Light

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Well there is actually one thing that trys to stop everyone and thats approach axiety, everyone gets it some get it more than others. This is what causes most people to freeze up but if they are actually practicing and learning they will start to see improvement. Only way you could get good with the conversation is if you learn the elements in the seduction world. (Such as what are negs, C&F, hoop theory, Screening,etc) Most people here don't know what there doing they just go in str8 for the rapport or eject early because they run out of things. Like seriously, I've always wondered how the hell does anyone not have anything to say, if you were talking with your friend you could talk all day but this one time your with a hot girl and you can only hold a conversation for 2 mins.

I don't even feel like explaining opening and all that, too me though it may seem the hardest but it is by far the easiest if you know what your doing.
 

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Yeah it's just the hardest thing i find is the first like 2-3 sentences that comes outta my mouth...like the first thing you say to them.
 

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Same problem here, it's not hard approaching for me, but holding the conversation.
 

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orignally posted by Distant Light

Like seriously, I've always wondered how the hell does anyone not have anything to say, if you were talking with your friend you could talk all day but this one time your with a hot girl and you can only hold a conversation for 2 mins


When you talk to your friends they're interested and also try to help in the conversation. When you run out of things to say, you or the other person will add to the conversation or think of something. Some girls tend to just stand there and act "pissed". Usually if girls were more receptive sometimes it would be easier, but I guess that also adds to the screening process.

Another example, let's say a girl approaches you. (Even if it's not to hit on you.) Do you just stand there silently and stare at her? (Most people don't, if you do then you need some confidence lessons :) ) If she starts the convo, you usually try and talk to her and help the conversation. She probably walks too if you don't do anything but stand there.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I don't think i explained that properly but either way when approaching don't expect her to be into the conversation, as I was watching a DYD CD and TD was guest speaking. He talks about doing the 90/10 rule, it is a must that at first you speak 90% and her 10% of the time, because you just met so you have to talk and talk. (Thats why i think mystery says to be very talktative if you want to get good) also he demonstrated a neat way to bait girls kinda like your telling them exactly wat to say. An then he had 3 guys demonstrating it on each other.
 

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Conversations WERE a toughie, and everyone SHOULD agree.
I had troubles with conversating with GIRLS my entire life...until I stumbled upon this place in '05.

I never could flirt, maintain an interesting convo, or even approach a cute girl in the old days. I'd freeze up, and at best, I would make eye contact without even smiling. I get the chills thinking of my past. However, I conquered that fear by reading the SoSuave tips OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

What sosuave recommended, I did it. I thought to myself, "You can't be a loser forever; you have to do this!" Just the whole thought of being 30+ and never even having a date scared the crap out of me. Therefore, my fears of the future drove me to overcome my fear or rejections and/or talking with girls.
 

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I have just started approaching!!! :) Its easy once you get into it.

Have a look at my tip in the tips section to see how i got over the fear!
 

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I did approach last night, but i sucked at it BIGTIME...one of the funny moments of the night was when i said

ME:"HEY GIRLS ALLLRIGHT" .....i said this too excitedly and they looked at me and probally thought i was weird.

Then i approached another 2-3 girls....after that....

But i found that i'm totally ****E at conversation...but i think i'm getting the approach under control even though i was crap at talking.

I'll put up another thread about what MADE me approach.
 
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