"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How did YOU become a Don Juan?

CaptainJ

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I'm writing this thread mainly for my own education, but also to enlighten others to.

So for all the people who used to be complete AFCs and became Don Juans, what was you turning point? How old were you? How bad were you before you decided to change. Why did you decide to change? How did you go about making the change?

Maybe this will show people how they can take hold of their lives.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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eaglez1177

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I first came to this site after just a complete and total lack of getting girls my freshman year of high school. I have to say I was a major nerd and AFC back then...seems like all I ever did was go to school and day dream about the hot girls, then play sports, then go home and play video games, and maybe occasionally in there I would hang out with some nerdy friends where we literally NEVER hung out with girls on the weekends.

At the end of my freshman year I came across this site, lurked for a while, read a lot of stuff, and just took it all in. Then sophmore year came, and things really started going up hill. Got my first kiss, first gf (lasted a few weeks but hey it was a learning experience), then a lot more random hookups. After that I went out with another girl for 4 months, and at this point was decently experienced with DJing. Eventually I smartened up and dumped her, to which a few months later we became f-buddies for a while.

Then that stop, more time went by, I just went out in the field much much more, got a lot of practice and experience, and then eventually hookups became no problem, BJs were pretty easy, and I started gettin some random lays.

And now im pretty much here, and off going to college in a few months. I still have much that I can still improve on, heck I think any DJ can always be improving, but I'm very happy with where things are now and I really enjoy new challenges, learning new things, and just goin out in the field and trying stuff out.
 

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eaglez1177 said:
I first came to this site after just a complete and total lack of getting girls my freshman year of high school. I have to say I was a major nerd and AFC back then...seems like all I ever did was go to school and day dream about the hot girls, then play sports, then go home and play video games, and maybe occasionally in there I would hang out with some nerdy friends where we literally NEVER hung out with girls on the weekends.


ooooo lol you never mentioned this before over in the high school forum. I'm sure a lot of guys would be much more encouraged after seeing where you came from!


On topic of this thread, I was as bad an AFC as you could possibly get. Through middle school, I talked to exactly ONE girl about something other than school, and that's not even an exaggeration. I literally would start sweating balls and panicking when a girl started TALKING to me. I was a total perv who would go around trying to see up girls' skirts when they were walking up stairs. I'd stalk the one girl I liked for a year without having even spoken a WORD to her. I didn't even have any friends.

There were two breaking points that had to happen for me. It took me all of freshman and sophomore year just to become a somewhat competent SOCIAL human being. For the first time, I had girl and guy friends who I hung out with on the weekends.

All that socializing turned me into the biggest nice guy though. I was the center of attention in our friends group, the leader who made plans and decisions, but only because all the other guys were bigger betas than me. Beginning of senior year is when I joined this site. I think it took me the whole school year and a few more failures with girls to really man up. I ditched my old friends group cuz I was sick of swimming with betas all the time and the girls didn't interest me at all.

Here I am now...I know I'm not an AFC on the inside. I know what I want. I haven't really gotten with any girls yet though, so I'm not really a DJ until I prove it. College in a few months...:D
 

cavedweller

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CaptainJ,

I have been divorced a long time..(without a doubt I am probably the oldest guy on this site)..I ain't no Don Juan..I just work on finding female friends..I work on building a strong friendship then turn them into fvck buddies...Works for me..

cavedweller
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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