I'm not sure for how long this site has been running, but given the amount of feedback and suggestions to honest questions folks receive on here, I'm surprised that it hasn't been profiled on shows like NBC Nightly News or The Today Show and other magazine-style shows, for example. Or maybe it's been profiled in the past? This place definitely seems to be quite a resource for some questions.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
How Come the TV Shows Haven't Yet Discovered This Site?
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Stick around a while, it'll become apparent. Personally, I think we've been lucky so far as not to have had mass media publicity.
Master Bates
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This site in particular, or "seduction guru" sites in general? For the latter, just look to Neil Straus's The Game. It's a New York Time's best seller and got lots of press from what I remember. If that doesn't "blow the lid" off of the whole seduction community, I don't know what will.
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Yeah, this place wont stay private forever. It's only a matter of time before somebody gets wind of its existance and exposes it to the media. I naturally have a bit of a ****y/funny attitude, and can't imagine a world where every girl i hit on whispers to her friends "oh, he's just one of those losers using that don juan stuff, fukk him!" What a nightmare!
I think i can relate best to jariel and pook's words of wisdom about self improvement most notably the success they had after bulking/cutting and achieving a superior masculine physique ,as well as photo1's BRILLIANT post about taking charge of your life .Girls will still need to be f*cked, and i have to believe that a man who is confident, funny, muscular, and sexual with a dash of interesting hobbies will always triumph over the inevitable tide of "insta-djs" that will come along with the exposing of sosuave. Still, the backlash from this will be irritaiting to say the least.
Yeah, this place wont stay private forever. It's only a matter of time before somebody gets wind of its existance and exposes it to the media. I naturally have a bit of a ****y/funny attitude, and can't imagine a world where every girl i hit on whispers to her friends "oh, he's just one of those losers using that don juan stuff, fukk him!" What a nightmare!
I think i can relate best to jariel and pook's words of wisdom about self improvement most notably the success they had after bulking/cutting and achieving a superior masculine physique ,as well as photo1's BRILLIANT post about taking charge of your life .Girls will still need to be f*cked, and i have to believe that a man who is confident, funny, muscular, and sexual with a dash of interesting hobbies will always triumph over the inevitable tide of "insta-djs" that will come along with the exposing of sosuave. Still, the backlash from this will be irritaiting to say the least.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Master Bates
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Umm, don't you think a site like masf would get "exposed" first? I mean this is a nice board and all, but I wouldn't exactly consider it a mecca of seduction teachings. Like I said, the whole seduction community thing has already gained mass media publicity through Style's book The Game, and I've still never heard anyone talk about any of it in real life.
I understand the concern though. That's why I don't want to learn lots of lines and routines and shyt, for fear of them being recognized because it's gained so much popularity.
I understand the concern though. That's why I don't want to learn lots of lines and routines and shyt, for fear of them being recognized because it's gained so much popularity.
Ojete
Don Juan
It's not like if they were to 'discover' powerful stuff and / or something revolutionary here. Just take a look at the majority of the posts here, and the average success of the people here... most haven't even had sex man. That's core true.
And as some others have already posted, it has been covered in the media in other forms (books, tv shows, etc.). Nothing new.
And as some others have already posted, it has been covered in the media in other forms (books, tv shows, etc.). Nothing new.
Once you figure out how to really be the man that you are capable of being, you could tell women about this site and they would still fall for you because your presence is so powerful. I'd hardly worry about a woman finding out you know of a website that helped you learn how to help make her feel incredibly good and happy to be with you.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
The secret is that they feel they are AFCs and don't want women to see their insecurities exposed. The secret they don't realize is that as long as they are AFCs, women will see those insecurities anyways and they have to overcome that in the field.
everywomanshero
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Exposure
O, don't worry, TD has already created a marketing plan to take $$ from those guys who "fear exposure", now you can buy his new system and avoid this possibility!
The truth is most guys who are not having any success with women are never going to have any. That's not to say that a guy can't go from gimp to pimp, of course he can, but most guys are not going to really be willing to do what it takes to get rid of those old negative behaviors and attitudes. They will either keep doing what they've always done, misinterpret the advice of others, or try so hard to be a replica of someone else that they don't have a chance in hell at connecting with a real, living person.
Furthermore, there are already hoardes of men selling their PU ideas. This is only going to grow with time. Some will be frauds, some will be legit guys with good ideas. There is literally so much material out there already that no one woman could ever hear it all. ANy guy who sits around trying to memorize every PUAs words is going to be too busy doing that to have a real life. If a woman is so bombarded by the collective mass of idiots reciting lines that she's heard it all, then our job will be easier than ever to stand out!
This is an evolution. In evolution when something works, it spreads like wildfire. Just like all peacocks now have long tails, when guys get wind of an idea that can help them get laid, they all come running! LOL It either continues to work or becomes so common that it is no longer an advantage and then the next big thing comes. In the seventies and eighties there was a big push to more "sensitive" and all this crap. Lots of guys started doing that because they thought it would get them laid. This kept occuring until the point we are at now, where a good 60% of the population doesn't even know anything different. We may see an era oneday soon with some C&F or maculinepatterns of communication come back.
What I am saying is thoughout history evolutionary advantages have became more common, until all members of the species have it since they survive and/or reproduce more. It is the same with information in the information age. However, knowing the words to a great script does not make one the next great actor.
As far as this site specifically, there is really nothing here that you won't find in bits and pieces in other books, posts on the net, etc. As far as the great "pook" goes, you should check out his blog. I don't think we have to worry about his "secrets" becoming a big media success.
I know a guy who picks up women by meeting them at a dog park and he uses flowers and candies within the first 3 times he sees them afterwords. He makes it work. You can get laid doing anything. He has an attractive identity to women. Now, it's not all real mind you, some of it is a load of crap. He has never heard of any of these sites or PUAS, in fact he didn't even know they existed. There have been guys who get laid and guys who don't get laid since way before the Internet age, and there will continue to be long after. In the overall schema of things, PUAS DJS ETC is really not a big deal.
O, don't worry, TD has already created a marketing plan to take $$ from those guys who "fear exposure", now you can buy his new system and avoid this possibility!
The truth is most guys who are not having any success with women are never going to have any. That's not to say that a guy can't go from gimp to pimp, of course he can, but most guys are not going to really be willing to do what it takes to get rid of those old negative behaviors and attitudes. They will either keep doing what they've always done, misinterpret the advice of others, or try so hard to be a replica of someone else that they don't have a chance in hell at connecting with a real, living person.
Furthermore, there are already hoardes of men selling their PU ideas. This is only going to grow with time. Some will be frauds, some will be legit guys with good ideas. There is literally so much material out there already that no one woman could ever hear it all. ANy guy who sits around trying to memorize every PUAs words is going to be too busy doing that to have a real life. If a woman is so bombarded by the collective mass of idiots reciting lines that she's heard it all, then our job will be easier than ever to stand out!
This is an evolution. In evolution when something works, it spreads like wildfire. Just like all peacocks now have long tails, when guys get wind of an idea that can help them get laid, they all come running! LOL It either continues to work or becomes so common that it is no longer an advantage and then the next big thing comes. In the seventies and eighties there was a big push to more "sensitive" and all this crap. Lots of guys started doing that because they thought it would get them laid. This kept occuring until the point we are at now, where a good 60% of the population doesn't even know anything different. We may see an era oneday soon with some C&F or maculinepatterns of communication come back.
What I am saying is thoughout history evolutionary advantages have became more common, until all members of the species have it since they survive and/or reproduce more. It is the same with information in the information age. However, knowing the words to a great script does not make one the next great actor.
As far as this site specifically, there is really nothing here that you won't find in bits and pieces in other books, posts on the net, etc. As far as the great "pook" goes, you should check out his blog. I don't think we have to worry about his "secrets" becoming a big media success.
I know a guy who picks up women by meeting them at a dog park and he uses flowers and candies within the first 3 times he sees them afterwords. He makes it work. You can get laid doing anything. He has an attractive identity to women. Now, it's not all real mind you, some of it is a load of crap. He has never heard of any of these sites or PUAS, in fact he didn't even know they existed. There have been guys who get laid and guys who don't get laid since way before the Internet age, and there will continue to be long after. In the overall schema of things, PUAS DJS ETC is really not a big deal.
md3sign
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I don't see what's so crazy about this site; it's just a bunch of guys looking for advice on girls - the internet equivalent of cosmo if you will.
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Ditto that - the shock value of this site is low, and relatively speaking traffiic is most likely low as well.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
everywomanshero
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Traffic Rank for sosuave.net: 52,816 according to alexa.. although it's rank has improved over the past 3 months.
Drum&Bass
Master Don Juan
everywomanshero said:
The truth is most guys who are not having any success with women are never going to have any. That's not to say that a guy can't go from gimp to pimp, of course he can, but most guys are not going to really be willing to do what it takes to get rid of those old negative behaviors and attitudes. They will either keep doing what they've always done, misinterpret the advice of others, or try so hard to be a replica of someone else that they don't have a chance in hell at connecting with a real, living person.
Simple/Brilliant and TrueThere have been guys who get laid and guys who don't get laid since way before the Internet age