"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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how big is too big?

md3sign

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WBA and Jariel hit the nail on the head. Don't worry about looking like Ronnie - you won't. Bulking up definitely worked for me (and is working better every day) in terms of attracting women, making friends easier, and just being more respected. I get guys bigger than myself coming up to me at the gym asking for a spot.


WBA - we need some pics already. I wanna see this big buff dude.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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ValleyDJing

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donjuanjovi said:
but in my opinion there's nothing better than people saying holy sh1t when you take off your shirt.
Actually there is. Its way better when chicks say holy s.hit when you take off your pants. :D

Oh and please guys...no 'roids.
 

ProDJ26

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Warboss Alex said:
The 'typical' coverboy is attainable how I said, and if you did it my way you'd probably have a good deal more muscle as well. And remember, a lot of these guys at impossibly low bodyfats with globs of muscle are on juice.
sht I'm listening :D
 

Warboss Alex

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ProDJ26 said:
sht I'm listening :D
post your stats, training experience, current diet/routine.. on this thread or in a PM if you prefer and I'll tell you something more specific.

honestly, the coverboy look is so easy to achieve. lol.

start up a journal so we can keep an eye on you.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Throttle

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Warboss Alex said:
I met my sweetheart when I was a 'small' 230-240 (small for me anyway :D) and she was barely half my size, no problems with attraction there whatsoever.
ditto here.

Warboss Alex said:
What you should aim for is a bodyweight/size/strength/leanness that makes YOU happy and confident.. because a happy, confident guy is always a million times more attractive regardless of aesthetics.
bingo! this is the key. if you're expecting a great body to reel women in, forget it. you always have to be out there and in control, or else the ones who will go after you will be the controlling types. I don't care who you are, you don't want that ****, and if you claim you do, then you sure as hell deserve it! (been there, done that, lucky not to be paying alimony to the wench[es]!)

finally, the title to this thread is a fallacy. I've never seen anyone get bigger than he or she wanted. even if you could somehow end up in with lifting addiction, it's self-curing: the returns to any particular level of effort are always diminishing, and it only takes one nice break to remind you why this **** is so demanding. if you can't find the willpower to give up something that's this hard to maintain, then it really, really sucks to be you. you need one of those controlling types (see above) to kick your beta male ass into submission
 

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Warboss Alex said:
I don't look at male magazines so I wouldn't know. :D

The 'typical' coverboy is attainable how I said, and if you did it my way you'd probably have a good deal more muscle as well. And remember, a lot of these guys at impossibly low bodyfats with globs of muscle are on juice.

Don't forget those guys with ridicously huge upper bodies, and skinny legs.
 

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Yeah, chicken legs...

I've got those...I hate them.

My LONG term goal...5'9 @200lbs around 9%bf
 

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My ideal size would be around 5'10" @ 185 pounds with around 10-11% bf. I'm currently around 5'10" @ 150 and 12-13% bf. I don't really care what girls think is too big, I just want to reach my goal.
 
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