"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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how big is too big?

md3sign

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WBA and Jariel hit the nail on the head. Don't worry about looking like Ronnie - you won't. Bulking up definitely worked for me (and is working better every day) in terms of attracting women, making friends easier, and just being more respected. I get guys bigger than myself coming up to me at the gym asking for a spot.


WBA - we need some pics already. I wanna see this big buff dude.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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ValleyDJing

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donjuanjovi said:
but in my opinion there's nothing better than people saying holy sh1t when you take off your shirt.
Actually there is. Its way better when chicks say holy s.hit when you take off your pants. :D

Oh and please guys...no 'roids.
 

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Warboss Alex said:
The 'typical' coverboy is attainable how I said, and if you did it my way you'd probably have a good deal more muscle as well. And remember, a lot of these guys at impossibly low bodyfats with globs of muscle are on juice.
sht I'm listening :D
 

Warboss Alex

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ProDJ26 said:
sht I'm listening :D
post your stats, training experience, current diet/routine.. on this thread or in a PM if you prefer and I'll tell you something more specific.

honestly, the coverboy look is so easy to achieve. lol.

start up a journal so we can keep an eye on you.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Warboss Alex said:
I met my sweetheart when I was a 'small' 230-240 (small for me anyway :D) and she was barely half my size, no problems with attraction there whatsoever.
ditto here.

Warboss Alex said:
What you should aim for is a bodyweight/size/strength/leanness that makes YOU happy and confident.. because a happy, confident guy is always a million times more attractive regardless of aesthetics.
bingo! this is the key. if you're expecting a great body to reel women in, forget it. you always have to be out there and in control, or else the ones who will go after you will be the controlling types. I don't care who you are, you don't want that ****, and if you claim you do, then you sure as hell deserve it! (been there, done that, lucky not to be paying alimony to the wench[es]!)

finally, the title to this thread is a fallacy. I've never seen anyone get bigger than he or she wanted. even if you could somehow end up in with lifting addiction, it's self-curing: the returns to any particular level of effort are always diminishing, and it only takes one nice break to remind you why this **** is so demanding. if you can't find the willpower to give up something that's this hard to maintain, then it really, really sucks to be you. you need one of those controlling types (see above) to kick your beta male ass into submission
 

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Warboss Alex said:
I don't look at male magazines so I wouldn't know. :D

The 'typical' coverboy is attainable how I said, and if you did it my way you'd probably have a good deal more muscle as well. And remember, a lot of these guys at impossibly low bodyfats with globs of muscle are on juice.

Don't forget those guys with ridicously huge upper bodies, and skinny legs.
 

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Yeah, chicken legs...

I've got those...I hate them.

My LONG term goal...5'9 @200lbs around 9%bf
 

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My ideal size would be around 5'10" @ 185 pounds with around 10-11% bf. I'm currently around 5'10" @ 150 and 12-13% bf. I don't really care what girls think is too big, I just want to reach my goal.
 
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