"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How 2 solve this one...??

yul

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Hi,

went to a trashy punk bar alone this week.
I realise that I like trashy punk girls from time to time.

At around 3AM, I meet this HB at the lobby.
She works in a tatoo shop nearby.

We start to talk nonsense with this other guy.
She says she has a BF but she doesnt really like him.

Before I leave, I say "lets meet some other time". She says yeah.

So I am being a useless fukin stupid as.shole and give her my business card.
Like she cares about my work...how stupid of me.

The next morning I call her up at the shop and say to her "Look, I should not have gave you my card, this is ridiculous. Could you leave me your phone# and I'll call you some other time?" She says yeah and gave me hers.

So I wait a few days and call her. She says she is having dinner with her bf (the guy she supposedly doesnt like). So I tell her I'll call back some other time. She says OK.

So I wait another few days and call back but its a guy that picks up.
Wrong number...sorry.

I am thinking of going straight to the shop and drop by to say Hi!
That would be the easiest thing to do.

Any suggestions?

Maybe she is using me to get rid of the BF or she is just lost (big possibility but she doesnt take drugs).

I have no idea why I like this girl (yes, shes really hot) and want to take it a step further.

Thanks

Y
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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This sounds like bad news to me if her BF is answering her phone. Either they are living together or the guy is a psycho-stalker dweeb.

You just have to call her and ask her out - thats about it. The harder it is to get in touch with woman - the lower the interest level though...
 

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yul said:
Hi,

went to a trashy punk bar alone this week.
I realise that I like trashy punk girls from time to time.

At around 3AM, I meet this HB at the lobby.
She works in a tatoo shop nearby.

We start to talk nonsense with this other guy.
She says she has a BF but she doesnt really like him.

Before I leave, I say "lets meet some other time". She says yeah.

So I am being a useless fukin stupid as.shole and give her my business card.
Like she cares about my work...how stupid of me.

The next morning I call her up at the shop and say to her "Look, I should not have gave you my card, this is ridiculous. Could you leave me your phone# and I'll call you some other time?" She says yeah and gave me hers.

So I wait a few days and call her. She says she is having dinner with her bf (the guy she supposedly doesnt like). So I tell her I'll call back some other time. She says OK.

So I wait another few days and call back but its a guy that picks up.
Wrong number...sorry.

I am thinking of going straight to the shop and drop by to say Hi!
That would be the easiest thing to do.

Any suggestions?

Maybe she is using me to get rid of the BF or she is just lost (big possibility but she doesnt take drugs).

I have no idea why I like this girl (yes, shes really hot) and want to take it a step further.

Thanks

Y


Why would you even want to get involved in this circus?? Your just asking for drama, that could escalate to another level. If this chick is willing to fuvk around with you while she's got a bf she hates, that really doesn't say much about her does it?? Who knows what the exact situation is, but you shouldn't be chasing girls with bfs in the first place.

If anything she should just end up being some fun you have on the side if she ever goes out with you.



PIMP
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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