"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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SoCalMike

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Ever notice how hot girls become much nicer when they're single moms and no one wants them anymore?

It's really just fake behaviour IMO. Designed to lure someone into taking care of them and cleaning up their mess.

This brings up an interesting question in my mind: is there ever really such a thing as genuinely nice behaviour from an attractive woman, or is all her behaviour just motivated by what she can get?

Thoughts?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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SoCalMike said:
This brings up an interesting question in my mind: is there ever really such a thing as genuinely nice behaviour from an attractive woman, or is all her behaviour just motivated by what she can get?

Thoughts?
Of course beautiful girls will be nice to you, IF you are a high value male.

Unfortunately, beautiful girls *can* be mean or arrogant towards you, if you are a low value male, or if your value drops preciptiously.
 

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Trader said:
Of course beautiful girls will be nice to you, IF you are a high value male.

Unfortunately, beautiful girls *can* be mean or arrogant towards you, if you are a low value male, or if your value drops preciptiously.
I'm not talking about hot women rejecting me, although I figured that would be the response. I'm talking about my experiences DATING hot women. Most are arrogant selfish cvnts with an entitlement complex. Only when I threaten to dump them do they act *somewhat* decent.

The only exceptions to this rule have been 2 foreign women I dated, so maybe it's an American thing.
 

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SoCalMike said:
Ever notice how hot girls become much nicer when they're single moms and no one wants them anymore?

It's really just fake behaviour IMO. Designed to lure someone into taking care of them and cleaning up their mess.

Thoughts?
You've already said everything that needs to be said about the topic. Of course they're much nicer when they are single moms, they're looking for providers to take care of them. They're looking to rectify their past mistakes. Curiously enough, most of these women are the same that at some point in their lives have told at least SOMEONE: I don't need a man in my life to raise my child(ren).

Most of the people in this forum will stop at being FB's with a single woman. I'd never consider a serious relationship with a single mom because of all the additional baggage they have on them. It's hard enough to game women when they're single and childless... why add any extra ingredients into the already complicated recipe?
 

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Kailex said:
You've already said everything that needs to be said about the topic. Of course they're much nicer when they are single moms, they're looking for providers to take care of them. They're looking to rectify their past mistakes. Curiously enough, most of these women are the same that at some point in their lives have told at least SOMEONE: I don't need a man in my life to raise my child(ren).

Most of the people in this forum will stop at being FB's with a single woman. I'd never consider a serious relationship with a single mom because of all the additional baggage they have on them. It's hard enough to game women when they're single and childless... why add any extra ingredients into the already complicated recipe?
I understand that. But it's a philisophical question: is there such a thing as a hot woman who is GENUINELY nice, or does that behaviour only come out when they need something?

In my experience the answer is the latter in about 99.99% of cases, at least when we're discussing AMERICAN WHITE women.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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SoCalMike said:
I understand that. But it's a philisophical question: is there such a thing as a hot woman who is GENUINELY nice,
Yes - they are out there. I have known two maybe three.
And all of them had strong, manly 'old school' fathers who were the dominant parent.
Not sure of all the psych intricacies there, BUT women with fathers like Clint are the ones you want.
 

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lol I'm super hot and modest...hahahahaha... But she's right. They do exist, a lot of them get nervous around guys they feel are HOT. At the end of the day they are just human like you and I. If angry fat bpd slobs came up to you all the time and stupidly tried hitting on you, do you think you may get tired of it and maybe occasionally lash out at them? That's where the ***** stereotype comes in. p.s. Curious Girl, check me out if you ever vaca in Hawaii baby girl....hahahahaha
 

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They definitely exist. I'm nice, hot and modest.
No your not nice. I just read one of your posts where you give guys facebook to reject them later. If you were nice you wouldn't give them false hope.
 

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Dear Jophil,
"I have known two maybe three.
And all of them had strong, manly 'old school' fathers who were the dominant parent".....dead right Jophil,never thought of it before,but that is my experience too.....Begs a question,are they really looking for someone like Dad?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The Nice Beautiful girls I have known are Married or taken..mainly at my job. I vibed with a beautiful girl, but she was married...

they are out there fellas...just taken, again I reitterrate TAKEN!
 

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yuppaz said:
lol I'm super hot and modest...
If angry fat bpd slobs came up to you all the time and stupidly tried hitting on you, do you think you may get tired of it and maybe occasionally lash out at them?
You're not modest or "nice". Nor am I talking about lashing out at fat slobs who hit on you (although that's a good example - why the need to lash out?). I'm talking about overall personality traits... selfishness, entitlement, etc.
 

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jophil28 said:
Yes - they are out there. I have known two maybe three.
And all of them had strong, manly 'old school' fathers who were the dominant parent.
Not sure of all the psych intricacies there, BUT women with fathers like Clint are the ones you want.
Yeah that's probalby true. The two foreign women I dated who were hot and actually decent people came from good families. Sometimes I regret not marrying one of them. I was younger and not ready to settle down though.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I honestly wouldn't single out attractive women.... I think there are copious people who aren't genuine both male and female alike. But to answer your question... yes I have met attractive women who were genuinely nice... I know it was genuine because there was really nothing I could provide them (i.g. they had a higher position in the workplace)
 
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