“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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So I went out with a girl I've been on a couple dates with for her birthday tonight with her and two housemates (girls) and some dudes they know. I was already at a graduation party from 8ish when this chick starts messaging me to come see her, overly keen, asking where I am, even stands outside of her house 2 min away to meet me on the street in her socks with her friend.

Go to a club, everything fine, interest, proximity, isolation, all fine.

We go back to her house now and she is being standoffish... hard to build rapport and this ***** was actively avoiding me! To be fair, lots of alcohol and coke were consumed but jeez, she begged me to come, wanted me to come early, kino in the club, then home and boom, nothing ***** acting like i was a leper...

We all chilled drinking, dancing, smoking at the house then shes like I'm tired I want to go to sleep soon. I read the signals and bounced.

Has anyone experienced this before? We'd been on a couple of dates previous which went well but halfway through the night she just change and I picked up on it immediately.

Typing this at 9am just got home, frustrated.
 

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Attention wh0re. Bpd..who knows. Who cares.
 

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agreed, next.
 

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Unstable, and psycho i guess.

Emotional criter?

Seriously if she leaves you confused. I think you have to walk away.
 
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Honestly, what seems like a great idea when inebriated, can seem like a terrible idea when you are coming down.

My guess is that she was all kino coked/boozed up, and then, as these items were wearing off (esp the coke) she crashed. This is why the sudden change.

This could play out a few different ways. I would go NC and let her reach out to you.
 

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Maybe you guys should have done a few more drugs on top of what you had done already so you could have tried to make it more of a mystery as to how each were affecting her. Lmao!

I personally dont pay any attention to the way someone acts under the influence of anything as you have no idea how it effects them.
 

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This b*tch just messaged me: "Omg I am dying"

She better be dying.

Any advice on when to reply? was thinking maybe tomorrow at work?
 

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This b*tch just messaged me: "Omg I am dying"

She better be dying.

Any advice on when to reply? was thinking maybe tomorrow at work?
Why are you over thinking this so much? Pay NO attention to the way someone acts on drugs. Reply whenever you want. Wait til tomorrow for what? Because you are butt hurt over the way she acted while drugged out of her mind and drunk?

Have you banged this chick yet?
 

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Why are you over thinking this so much? Pay NO attention to the way someone acts on drugs. Reply whenever you want. Wait til tomorrow for what? Because you are butt hurt over the way she acted while drugged out of her mind and drunk?

Have you banged this chick yet?
I've been with her on drugs before and she was cool!

No I haven't banged her yet
 

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This b*tch just messaged me: "Omg I am dying"
She better be dying.
Any advice on when to reply? was thinking maybe tomorrow at work?
sounds like she is hung over, which bolsters the thought that the evenings activities affected her decision making.

LOL "she better be dying" why? b/c she didnt fvck you? take a different viewpoint.... if you had stuck it in her she maybe coulda decided that you took advantage of her and made trouble for you.

in any case, if you need to respond, wait until this evening. I say that b/c hungover people can still behave irrationally. Text her later and say "you feeling any better?" if she asks why the delay jut causally respond "I had a full day" and shift the convo back onto how she is feeling. if the convo is going well ask her out for a specific date and time for coffee (keep her sober) then isolate with a walk and re escalate to see where you get. If she's into you not only will she agree to a date but she will also let you escalate.

If she says no to the date, let everything go and move on.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I've been with her on drugs before and she was cool!

No I haven't banged her yet
Maybe there are other things in play...maybe she had a bad day, got mad at her friend, started her period, etc...it might not have anything to do with you...

Just relax bro...its not always about you when women change their moods.
 

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Just relax bro...its not always about you when women change their moods.
Honestly you can tell the men who are experienced with women and who have inner self assurance by who follows this simple bit of advice above.

The above quoted advice will allay many of the fears, answer many of the questions and situations guys ask about here.

Don't be so self absorbed that you think everything is all about you. Sorry but you ain't THAT important to anyone else every waking second.

Rather, relax, chill & do your thing. It's a much better way to go through life.
 

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Right so since me bday she’s been messaging me trying to reach out with **** convo, today at lunch I just text her “you free Friday”

Within a minutes she replies
“yes free from 5
How comeeees??”

I invite her out she says yes.

I shouldn’t have judged her for being ****ed up, truth is I was ****ed up myself on no sleep with blue balls and shouldnt have even made the thread.

Anyway she suggested we go locally to a bar next to her house where she gets discount - happy days.

So after the calamity thay was Saturday I’m gonna hit the limo and flirting hard and get back the good vibe we had and hopefully secure the bang. Report to follow.

As an aside, I stayed at my ex’s on Monday night and banged and she wants to meet up later to bang outside as that’s something we wanted to do but never got round to, we’re not getting back together tho.
 

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This b*tch just messaged me: "Omg I am dying"

She better be dying.

Any advice on when to reply? was thinking maybe tomorrow at work?
"Omg i'm dying."

Delete. Next.

That would be my reply.
 

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We go back to her house now and she is being standoffish... hard to build rapport and this ***** was actively avoiding me! To be fair, lots of alcohol and coke were consumed but jeez, she begged me to come, wanted me to come early, kino in the club, then home and boom, nothing ***** acting like i was a leper...

We all chilled drinking, dancing, smoking at the house then shes like I'm tired I want to go to sleep soon. I read the signals and bounced.

Has anyone experienced this before?
Yea... when I’m about to barf and don’t want the guy I’m into to know I’m about to barf LOL
My husband learned a long time ago that if he’s taking me to a party, he has to find out exactly what I ate that day, keep feeding me at the party (I can’t locate my own food at parties and will forget to eat), 4 drinks max, no food after that, then it’s home time... it’s a delicate art to bedding me after a party but has more to do with physics than my mental state... just putting that out there.
 

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Honestly, what seems like a great idea when inebriated, can seem like a terrible idea when you are coming down.

My guess is that she was all kino coked/boozed up, and then, as these items were wearing off (esp the coke) she crashed. This is why the sudden change.

This could play out a few different ways. I would go NC and let her reach out to you.
I think it's the coke crash too, sometime you feel so anxious and paranoid that you just want to be alone. Fock that ****, it's cancer.
 

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"Omg i'm dying."

Delete. Next.

That would be my reply.
Right...because at every little thing that goes wrong you just dump a chick. I swear some people live in an alternate dimension...
 

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Maybe there are other things in play...maybe she had a bad day, got mad at her friend, started her period, etc...it might not have anything to do with you...

Just relax bro...its not always about you when women change their moods.
No. I just don't like the baggage of a chick who is strung out on coke.
 

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No. I just don't like the baggage of a chick who is strung out on coke.
That's fair...TBH I forgot the backstory on this chick...
 

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She just texted me:

"Should we just get a bag of Coke for the sake of it tomorrow :laugh emoji:"

Not sure how serious this request is, this is the same girl who said shes broke and wants to drink locally at a bar next to her house rather than going out out. same girl that weirded out - it may have been the valium she popped after we got back to hers though.

She's a wild one.
 
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