"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Hot girl's definition of creepy

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I was chatting with a hot female friend today about the dating scene and asked her what she thought "creepy" meant. Her response verbatim: An ugly guy with confidence. I laughed as it basically sums up the pickup community in a nutshell.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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That chick is lame and stupid and she wants only hot looking guys to approach her, how grose
 

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ha - pretty honest. I never really worry too much about creeping them out. If I don't put on a move I'll look like a pu55y to her, if I do and she thinks it's Suuuuper creeeepy then she wouldn't have wanted to hang out anyway so no big loss. My friends are so scared of looking creepy.
 

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My friend's version of creepy is "a guy who is not in touch with reality" as in, he still persues her even after she sends the clear message of disinterest. I've seen a lot of ugly guys with confidence pull girls left and right. the trick is that they are calibrated and know when its going to work.

I would advice you not to focus too much on what girls have to say about pick up. The fear of coming across as creepy is what stops many afc's from getting laid. Even great looking guys with game can come across as creepy to some girls. Its all about brushing it off.
 

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To be honest she is spot on.

The homeless dude begging for change can be at the same "creep" level as some average dude at a party who hits on her and won't leave her alone/clings...but she finds finds him unattractive. I hate it when chicks refer to people as "creeps" and "creeper" so ****ing much. It's basically just used as a term to describe people in which girls find unattractive or doing unattractive behavior.

If a girl ever calls you a creep just take it as rejection (most of the time anyway) and move on. It's not like you are a pedophile with a van in the back alley luring children with your candy.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Potentially coming off as creepy is probably the reason why I've never made a direct approach. I don't want to be referred to as such just because I want to have a decent convo with a woman.
 

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No way Jose! You can be ugly as f@&k, have a hook for an arm and be confident as anybody else because you have other qualities and things to show for it, or simply because you are at ease and don't care about anything. It's in fact the lack of confidence that makes you a creep to begin with. And the other thing is that creepy aka needy/clingy behavior one may exhibit, because there are guys out there who go after a woman like a terminator and eventually get it at some point. It's about how you behave, not how good-looking or persistent you are. I ve seen otherwise good-looking normal guys exhibit weird stalkerish behavior at times and it is a turn off. Please don't go into extreme situations where a complete looser tries to eagerly hit on a woman. Looks are a buffer that let's you get away with more!
 

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evansblue said:
I was chatting with a hot female friend today about the dating scene and asked her what she thought "creepy" meant. Her response verbatim: An ugly guy with confidence. I laughed as it basically sums up the pickup community in a nutshell.

but wait??!! i thought women said they LIKED guys with confidence? isn't this one of the most popular characteristics most women find attractive in a guy?


my point is that this is yet again, another PRIME example of just how STUPID women are. they don't know what in the flying fvck they want. and you were a goofball to have listened to her and took her at her word. remember this, whenever a woman's mouth is moving and she's giving you dating advice, or telling you what kind of guy she likes, or what she finds attractive about guys.....she's lying. if that girl, or any girl for that matter told you the sky was blue, you'd be wise to believe it was brown, pink, or green.
 

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Women want hot men. I'm quite goodlooking (I'm not going to lie, just so I come off as modest) and their initial attraction to me is always based on my looks. I actually have to be a real ******* before I scare them away. BUT there are two things to consider:

1) Women, like men, have different tastes. Not all women find the same guy attractive.
2) As a man it's pretty damn easy to become goodlooking. Work out, gain muscle, have a more defined jaw line. It's easy.
 

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heh, I get labelled a "creep" all the time, usually by fat girls (or rich girls) I'd never or never want to fvck anyway. I think it's hilarious that they think that by purview of my body language I'm hitting on them or her. Keep dreaming. These b!tches wish they had a man who could fvck em like I do. I find it very laughable. I really do think that I am that good at fvcking. Different strokes for different folks though. I'm all for even b!tches finding their "soul" mate. She can call me a creep all she wants cause I ain't hittin on her.

Believe me, I've had one as of July label me as a creep, I ended up fvking. Even after I fvcked her I still think that she wanted to think of me as a creep, but she couldn't resist. She wanted to hookup again, but I'm not in to snobby rich b!tches. They can masturbate to their cellphones for all I care. Fvck em.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Creepy girl is a fat pig wistling on your muscly looks and tight clothes, approaching you and grabbing your 6 pack and pecs. I'm sure they have qualities, but there are just so many options out there.
 

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Ignore her.

Women are more shallow than guys are. Fact.

There are 2 universal things that work on any woman on planet earth :

1) Money
2) Looks

If you have both, well, you will have to hire a security guard to keep all the crazy *****es off your lap.

then there is the third thing that works on SOME women on earth :

3) Confidence/style

So if you don't have the money or looks, you can still land a girl, but you will have to look harder for her.
 

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I have some really bad skin (acne and scarring) and I have never been called a creep when approaching girls. Probably because I don't act like a creep at all!
 

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Espi said:
Stay away from her. Avoid her to her face. Future bitter divorcee who will be frequenting restaurants at tables reserved for 1.
Lol. And she will eventually be hit on at said table of one then.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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evansblue said:
I was chatting with a hot female friend today about the dating scene and asked her what she thought "creepy" meant. Her response verbatim: An ugly guy with confidence. I laughed as it basically sums up the pickup community in a nutshell.
But that basically is what females really mean by "creepy". It means nothing more than a guy she isn't attracted to who has the confidence to approach her, and not anything tangible. It's just a shaming tool females use against guys they are not attracted to. We don't let shaming thwart us but the real problem is it can be used as a ****block tool by both women and men. I.E., "Man that guy is so creepy hahaha. Spread the word..."

The only debate we have here is how much does looks matter in being attractive to females. I'd say a lot more than the PUA community tends to believe. It's not all about looks but it is not all about confidence either. Both a certain level of looks and good appearance and confidence is needed.

On the other hand it is possible to be ugly with confidence and not be labeled creepy, but you have to have a good presentation and be entertaining and non threatening. You won't be getting much sex from most of the girls you approach especially the hot ones though.
 

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Haha, I love the fact I've only been labeled it once in the last year, but it was quite the false label(seen a girl walking with friends, said,hi, she said you're creepy, probably said that to a ton of guys that night.... some peoples daughters....!)

I've seen a pretty boy called creepy before, after he tried to game some girls I was gaming, but walked away briefly, They came back to me and said "Why didn't you save us!". I thought for sure the pretty boy nailed it, he didn't touch em at all, I was touchy feely. But our approach was quite different, I have no idea what he was saying, but he did lean in a lot, vs me I didn't at all.
 

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To all you guys who say you dont get called creepy or only called creepy every one in a while...9 out of 10 times the girl isnt going to tell you your creepy to your face, shes going to say it to her friends as soon as you turn around and walk away.

This new generation of young women are extremely shallow. They have grown up watching mtv trash brainwashing their minds into thinking all men should bow to the axe wound between their legs.

I think most girls would agree with what your friends response was, an ugly guy who has confidence...isnt our generation great?
 

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So basically she's saying guys she thinks are unattractive shouldn't try to get laid.

Yeesh, what a b1tch.
 

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Who the fvck really cares if some trashbag thinks you're creepy? Tell her to fvck off and move on.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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