"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Hot girl demanding that I set up all dates + date ideas

gav

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Guys,

What are your thoughts on continuing to go out with a pretty hot girl who demands that it is always for the guy to initiate the dates and date ideas? According to her, that's what every girl expects. Bull**** in my opinion. I think she's a bit of an old-fashioned b!tch that wants a trophy boyfriend to pursue her constantly.

My gut instinct is this girl is pretty nuts, probably a product of her good looks and she's not kinky at all. She calls it "doing the dirty" for fvck sake.

Anyway, I'm going to tell her on Friday that things aren't continuing and am trying to get things set out in my head before this (probably along the lines of instinctively not going to work long-term, but definitely not if I feel like I'm chasing her constantly). My wording to her will be quite important: First, we're in the same firm; Second, I am going to have to wait at least two weeks until I go out with one of her best friends, who is the complete opposite - dirty and definitely not old fashioned like this other one- going to be quite tricky.

Any thoughts pls, esp on the first para.

Thanks
Gav
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Warrior74

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your the man, your suppose to lead, she shouldn't have to tell you this. of course if she just came out the blue and said this with no provocation or afcing from you, then ya, kinda strange. just roll with and see where it goes, hopefully to your bedroom, if you lead her there
 

Ice882

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So do it. Its your job.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Unbridled_Phoenix

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I would think that by the time you hear this, it's too late.

But it is a lesson well worth losing a woman to learn. Though we hear to no end of how strong and independent women are, it is a steaming pile, and by the laws of nature it is upon us to be the instigator.
 

The Bad Ass Canadian

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If you're just starting to see her then, yeah, it's your role to lead and plan things.

Once the relationship progresses, then there should be a bit of a 50/50 split. You should be on the recieving end, sometimes.

That said, most of the really hot chicks are fvcking nuts. It's a byproduct of being hot and having everyone hand you everything without ever earning it. Tread lightly, early on, and run like hell if she gives off any signs of being totally fvcked up.

May your gut be your guide.
 

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I don't see the problem, as she wants you to set up date ideas you get to do the planning. Take her to anything YOU find to be fun and exciting... this way you don't have to put up with girls "awesome" ideas of going to the mall and whatnot.
 

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Thanks for the comments and I'll probably aim to be a little more leading in the future; think I have been getting mixed with an LTR mentality (although for me, there is a relatively fine line between this and emitting signs of desperation)

As for my circumstances at the moment, it is not that I haven't been leading. First night, I got her back to mine in my bed; every time I tried the usual moves (other than kissing) she blocked me. 3 or 4 nights out since then, all my idea and they all went pretty well, but going back to mine was inconvenient for her even though I had suggested. This has all been on and off for 2 months and tbh either I should really like this girl by now or I shouldn't.

I've got too many doubts - therefore, to be honest, I'm going to trust the gut and let this one go. Helpful discussion though I think, thanks - hopefully should remove some unhelpful AFC attitude I have picked up from somewhere
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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scrouds

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You know what's great.... Controlling when and where the dates are. Most dates would be on my couch anyways, since I'm one cheap sob.

Last think I want is a chick telling me where to go.
 
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