"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hot chick added me on Facebook. What's next?

Slash Dolo

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I've been single and spinning plates for almost two years now and enjoying myself. However most of the girls I've either bagged off Tinder or through parties or whatever.

Hot chick adds me on Facebook. She likes several older pictures of mine so she's all but saying she's interested. I've always went with the "invite to something that doesn't sound like a date" approach that doesn't really show any interest to good effect when it comes to Facebook chicks, but I haven't really picked up a girl up from social media going on 2 years now. If any of you guys have any particular methods for online pickup I'd love to hear them. I'm probably overthinking it, but my online game's a bit rusty (I deleted Tinder 6 months ago as well) and I don't want to be too aloof/disinterested which is how I seem to be coming off nowadays.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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RangerMIke

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My advice would be to not do on-line dating and don't mix social media with dating, it's friends and family, not women.

It's not a good way to build attraction, it's just a media for women looking for attention.
 

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She didnt add you. You added her. It means nothing and all you are doing is feeding her need for attention.

She went through your page and has already determined what kind of person you are (in her mind at least). So now going forward whatever you tell her she'll compare to what she has already seen about you on your Facebook posts. And if something doesn't add up she'll go back to Facebook to check.

When they send me a friend request I ignore it. If they ask me why I didn't add them I say I use Facebook for family and business. I can see them mouth the word "azzhole" and I like it.
 

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She didnt add you. You added her. It means nothing and all you are doing is feeding her need for attention.

She went through your page and has already determined what kind of person you are (in her mind at least). So now going forward whatever you tell her she'll compare to what she has already seen about you on your Facebook posts. And if something doesn't add up she'll go back to Facebook to check.

When they send me a friend request I ignore it. If they ask me why I didn't add them I say I use Facebook for family and business. I can see them mouth the word "azzhole" and I like it.
Nope. She added me. I barely use Facebook anymore. Just surf to see what friends are doing. There isn't much to compare to besides a few pictures.

I agree with you guys about the "girls just looking for attention" thing but I've picked up girls on social media before. It's really not as taboo as you guys are making it out to be and it is doable, just gotta stop the moment you see a red flag.
 
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your goal is to try and continue the converation OUT of facebook.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I've picked up several great lays from fb from chicks that added me and some I've added.

If they added me, I'll send them a message right after I accept their friend request and ask "do I know you?". Let them initiate after their response. Just enough action from me to fuel the fire.

My current fwb added me on fb. I asked the "do I know you" and she said "no, I added you because you're hot". We were fvcking within 2 days. Got a great bj from her this afternoon. We fvck, she leaves. Never been at my place longer than 10 minutes afterwards.

If you add them, wait a few days, find something interesting in their profile or pics (preferably a hobby you both obviously like) and shoot her over a quick message. "Hey I noticed that you like ____.....interesting. How long have you been doing it?". Her response will show you if she's interested. Always turn that first message into a question. Always give her the "gotta run....stay on touch!" and bounce once you have a fairly decent convo building. Then wait a few days to see if she hits you back. If she doesn't you can always strike the convo back up a week or so later.

I disagree with the posters who say don't look at fb for lays. It's a free, avaliable pool of women to check out. Most will feel comfortable responding to you since most will have mutual friends. Tear it up.

Those that say otherwise aren't doing it right or aren't getting laid from it.
 

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I'm 38. I rarely date chicks over 30, most are 25-30. Current fwb is 28, solid hb8.

Women are women. They all like to fvck. Age difference would only be a change in dialogue in the messages, nothing more.
 

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And I promise that unless the chick that adds YOU is actually someone you know on a personal level, she is interested. Never had one add me that I didn't hook up with unless I wasn't interested....which happens often.
 

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Mine is on lock down unless we have a common friend otherwise they can't find me.

You had to accept her friend request.

How do you know her? You are over thinking it, ask her out already and gauge interest. Otherwise she's just an attention seeker.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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