"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Horrible slump but got cute girls # today!

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Got hot girls # but she in under house arrent wearing ankle bracelet!

My last 10 approaches have been rejections.

So bad I went back to my ex girlfriend.

BUT TODAY this cute girl at the checkout line made small talk with me and I small talked back, asked for her # and she was more than happy to give it to me!

So here it is Thursday night. I KNOW I can call her and get her to go out with me... I want to call so bad but ofcourse I can't call the same day right. Plus it looks like she gave her her home # not cellie.

So it's Thursday night... Cant call Friday obviously.. or can I ? During the Day?

Wait until sunday?

I could just feel it in her eyes she wants a man ..plus she just moved to the state and knows nobody.. and I stepped up to the plate and got her number.

So what strategy should I use? I got my own place finally.... when would you call?

F-ck I want to call right now but I know that stupid.. Friday? Sat? sun? Mon?

go back to the store and talk to her some more first?

I need to play this one right.

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Call her when you want. Don't know how many times I gotta say the 3 day rule is BS. Set up a date for the weekend. Be like "Since your new to the area, let's go out saturday night. I'll show you how to have a good time."

I never had a girl lose interest in me by calling too soon. However, if calling too soon does ruin it for me, I doubt I'd like that girl anyway.
 
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Call her when you want. Don't know how many times I gotta say the 3 day rule is BS. Set up a date for the weekend. Be like "Since your new to the area, let's go out saturday night. I'll show you how to have a good time."

I never had a girl lose interest in me by calling too soon. However, if calling too soon does ruin it for me, I doubt I'd like that girl anyway.

When I WANT? That would be right now! lol.. I'm just feeling the groove right now, my confidence is up.. but I just got the number 2 hours ago, so I cannot believe that would be a good idea.

Maybe tomorrow afternoon?

Even though it's Friday, I like your idea of what to say.

Calling an hour after I get the number is a big no no.

SO tomorrow Friday afternoon ya think?


Can I call right now ? Got the # 2 hours ago. Maybe we can go out tonight?? Or big no no?

Maybe go back to the store NOW and see whats she's doing after work?
 

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Oh well if she's working do not call or go to visit her. Wait for a time when your pretty sure she's off, like 10pm tonight. Call her, tell her who you are (in that case 'nobody' sounds kinda weird). Make some small talk, then set up the date for tomorrow or saturday.
 
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Oh well if she's working do not call or go to visit her. Wait for a time when your pretty sure she's off, like 10pm tonight. Call her, tell her who you are (in that case 'nobody' sounds kinda weird). Make some small talk, then set up the date for tomorrow or saturday.


Why cant i go back now, and say hey when do you get off let's grab a cup of coffee?

that doesnt sound too bad.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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That would have been fine, if you did it right from the start during the first meeting. But now, it might seem weird to her if you drive all the way back to the store to see her again. Calling the same day is fine, but let's not go overboard here.

Oh and heres a huge tip that you must do if you call and she don't answer her phone. LEAVE A VOICE MESSAGE EXPLAINING WHO YOU ARE! This is a must, because some girls do not answer their phone when they don't recognize the number
 

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I wouldn't even call her. Just wait till you go shopping again and make talk with her again and say, "Have you met anybody, yet?" and then if she says, "No, I haven't" then you say, "I might be going to such and such tomorrow night, wanna come?" and don't even call her. Make the date in person if possible, just like you'd make anything in person over having to use the phone or the net (job interview etc.). Just forget that you even got her phone number since you see her all the time anyway in your weekly routine. Just be passing by, "Howdy, stanger" etc etc. Go and leave, go and leave. Don't smother.
 

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This title reminded me of something in Jose Canseco's book Juiced, Wild Times, Rampant Roids and How Baseball Got Big
...He talked about Slump Busters and when players were doing bad or going through slumps how some of them were so superstitious they would find the ugliest, fattest, shamuish whale at the bar and then bang them to bust their slumps. Glad to see you bust your slump without resorting to Sea mammals.
 

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Call her when you want dude. I've never seen a girl lose interest because you called her too soon after getting her number. (Unless you're calling two minutes after you get it pretending to be Mike Tyson)
 
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Here's the update

I went back to the store after I made my last post. We went outside and talked during her break.

SHES ON ****ING HOUSE ARREST WEARING ONE OF THOSE THINGS ON HER ANKLE that goes off if she leaves anywhere either work or home and she joes to jail.

If I take her out, she goes to jail.

JUST MY LUCK.

Abandon ship? Or go back tomorrow and buy something and see if I can make something work?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Uhh... Reason she is on house arrest? lol

Cute or not you might want to know what happened to her past boyfriends or something lol.
 
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Uhh... Reason she is on house arrest? lol

Cute or not you might want to know what happened to her past boyfriends or something lol.

hahahah!

Hell, I'm going to go back tomorrow on my lunch break and say hi... see if she wants take a break and talk some more. I was so ready to kiss her and surprise the hell out of her today just to see what she'd do but I restrained myself!

she sprobably just got caught with weed or something stupid like that.

And I always go to this store for my lunch break to buy a salad so its not like i'm stalking her.

Hey the one good thig about this is it means she's not seeing other guys... and I can be her "friend" until the bracelet comes off... then she'll think i'm such a nice guy and bang me.
 

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So, your strategy is to be her "friend" and her think you are such a nice guy and then you hope she will bang you? Man, you have alot to learn.
 

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lol

Dono. this could be an interesting test bed.. But you might want to make shure she didnt do anything more deadly..
 
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Nah I changed my mind on the strategy.

I'm not going back into that store. I'm just going to give her a call maybe Sunday and see what's up.

I KNOW she'll be home at least with that ankle bracelet.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Ankle bracelet....Hopefully she won't shank you when she gets pissed. Good luck.
 

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I agree with all of Danny's advice. Stop going to the store.

Call her when you feel like it. If she doesn't answer, leave a message with your phone number. Wait until she calls back. Period. If she hasn't called back in two days, call her once more and that's it.

The ankle bracelet thing would make me a bit weary to say the least, but if it doesn't bother you then press on. In a way it helps you. You don't have to take her out to an expensive dinner and work hard to get her home. Offer to cook dinner together and watch a movie.
 
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I agree with all of Danny's advice. Stop going to the store.

Call her when you feel like it. If she doesn't answer, leave a message with your phone number. Wait until she calls back. Period. If she hasn't called back in two days, call her once more and that's it.

The ankle bracelet thing would make me a bit weary to say the least, but if it doesn't bother you then press on. In a way it helps you. You don't have to take her out to an expensive dinner and work hard to get her home. Offer to cook dinner together and watch a movie.


My bet is the ankle bracelet is because she got busted drinking and driving, or she got busted with drugs. Maybe she beat the **** out of another girl.

None of that bothers me.

Going to maybe call her tonight if I feel like it. I dont give a f-ck if its Friday.
 

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Going to maybe call her tonight if I feel like it. I dont give a f-ck if its Friday.
Atta' boy! You call when you want to call.
 
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Atta' boy! You call when you want to call.

What do you guys thinl she could have done to be under house arrest with that ankle brace that goes off if she leaves the premises? How am I supposed to do anything with her?

I am going to call her tonight and find out what she did. Maybe I can bang her at work in the storeroom or something if she has to wear it for a year.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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