Ive been wondering am i still a nice guy. AFC and nice guys seem to be different where as afc's are clueless with women and nice guys just worship them. I still feel im a kind guy, i neg girls once in a while but the negs seem to have no effect at all. How mean do i have to get, its not like im some nice guy that gets pushed around, im confident i have my own mind. But im still in a sense more nice than mean, i don't want to have to be some *******. Is this a bad thing. Because lately negs don't seem to be working on the girls i talk to.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Hope im no nice guy
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
War Against Betaism
Master Don Juan
It's not about what you say, it's how you project yourself as a person through your body language and voice tone, which reflects the amount of confidence you have.
haha i had the same problem bud 
, a great tip i got from an experienced PUA he said "it's not about how mean you can be, its about how nice you are not going to be" so he\\ no don't be mean man, its a false assumption i made myself , when i was a nice guy. i just stopped being so nice, stopped giving so many compliments, ego boosts... etc etc.
and its also like (War Against Betaism) said
It's not about what you say, it's how you project yourself as a person through your body language and voice tone, which reflects the amount of confidence you have.
and trust me, once you start getting more IOI's (indicators of interest)
your confidence will just grow and grow__________________
, a great tip i got from an experienced PUA he said "it's not about how mean you can be, its about how nice you are not going to be" so he\\ no don't be mean man, its a false assumption i made myself , when i was a nice guy. i just stopped being so nice, stopped giving so many compliments, ego boosts... etc etc. and its also like (War Against Betaism) said
It's not about what you say, it's how you project yourself as a person through your body language and voice tone, which reflects the amount of confidence you have.
and trust me, once you start getting more IOI's (indicators of interest)
your confidence will just grow and grow
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