"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Hooking up with soccer chik w/o seeming obvious?

ScrewIt

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Soccer chick.

Well, this is a new situation for me...to sum it up:
last weekend i got together with a bunch of strangers in the city for soccer at a local park. there was this cute hb8 there.
half of the ppl that played (including me) went to a bar after the game. As always whenever i go to a bar everyone is at a legal age, except me (but i do look like im in my early 20's)

barely talked to her. talked to her for a bit and found out she's from florida. everyone went their own way after leaving the bar.

this weekend she's coming out again for soccer.
How do i spark interest in her, when there's a ration of 1:10 of women to men on the field?? It's just oblivious to me what to do with this hb when theres all these guys who got skillz in soccer.
WTF do i do??

plus i forgot to mention if she were to find out i was younger than her (she's probably in her early 20's). she might be surprised.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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frivolousz21

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you have 475 posts????

I know you know you sound AFC.

why are u so worried my friend?

just do your best..be pimp, be DJ.

who cares about there skills..those skills kicking the ball around arent the skills u need to get the women u want.

you have those skills? so use them
 

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Appear Obvious.
What are you scared she'll know you like her while youre trying to f*** her in the a**?
 

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Originally posted by frivolousz21
you have 475 posts????

I know you know you sound AFC.

why are u so worried my friend?

just do your best..be pimp, be DJ.

who cares about there skills..those skills kicking the ball around arent the skills u need to get the women u want.

you have those skills? so use them
just cuz there is a # by his name, doesnt mean he is DJ. he could just have posted to a lot of threads offering his AFC opinion.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Dukester

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i.e. friv. you and i dont have many posts, but you sound like you are pretty much a DJ. and IMO i am a DJ.
so yep- cant use that # to judge.
i'v seen people on here w/ over 1000 posts that make complete and utter nonsense when they post- u can tell. def. AFC
 

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I am a DJ...im not conventional...there are alot of rules.I dont follow.

compared to most of the DJ's are PUA's I see on here Im probably more senstive towards women.

there are alot of things in the DJ bible that I follow and a lot of things I dont follow.

but to be completely Honest with you Dukester...to be good with women..it primarily to me comes down to 1 thing.

CONFIDENCE!

i stress to all the AFC's you can read all you want..do tricks, do whatever..but once you are CONFIDENT..it seems like natural things take over. I try to stress to AFC's who instant message me..look the bible is in place for you to get ur head on strait and emotionally control yourself.
but you dont have to live by the rules..once you gain CONFIDENCE you live by your own rules. being a DJ is discovering who you are and maximizing yourself to the fullest..and once you know WHO you are..you can make changes if you choose to.

I call girls the next day, I call them everyday, I try to see them asap.

and it always works..because im confdient and passionate about the things I believe in and or like.

what about you? how did u come to be a dj?
 

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hey b!tch, u better quote me on some of that confidence sh!t did u read my posts (lol, j/k)

but you are exactly right- "you live by your own rules. being a DJ is discovering who you are and maximizing yourself to the fullest..and once you know WHO you are..you can make changes if you choose to."

how did i become a DJ? well... hmm...

I needed to be kicked in the azz by one of my friends. He told me like it was,a nd then showed me this site. I took all this info in for awhile, read the bible.
I forced myself to try some of these techniques, and I found out what worked for me. I've been a natural C&F, just never used it like i do now. I guess you could say I was born w/ DJ tendancies, I was just too AFC to use them.
I experimented, trial and error. Lots of different things, read lots of advice.
I do everything different than I used to.
I.E. I just landed an 8, and were dating exclusively now. I havent talked to her since Tues, and it's cool, cuz that makes me more mysterious to her,and makes her want me even more. That is one of the things I've learned to do that works. Also, I dont call her unless it's to make plans.
As soon as I got my confidence, everything fell into place (read my thread).

It just takes time and perseverance. Dont give up, and you'll be fine.
 

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Why don't you make it seem obvious. Talk to her, interact with her. If she give you high IL, then go for it. Its your game.


If she gives you low-medium IL, then employ some of those tricks on Fast Seduction or whatever. This should be standard.
 

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i think the problem is, i dont like doing this kind of stuff in front of other people. especially since its such a high ratio with 1 girl. ill deal with this tomorrow at the game.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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