"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Honesty?

LikRetsam

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Well I ruined the surprise. This thread is about honesty. I don't believe in always telling the truth. I lie very often and I am so good at it that I am never caught. But there are times where lieing is not appropriate. There are times when you lie not because it's going to get in the way of a goal but because it's going to have a negative effect on you.

You want confidence? Here it is. Walking up to a girl is hardly an achievement unless you're considering how many calories you've destroyed. Asking for a phone number, complimenting, asking her out whatever. That does not display confidence. It just shows that you are social. Confidence is telling the truth. Confidence is having the ****ing balls to take responsibility for what you've done.

A guy I know cheated on his girlfriend and she found out. He told her that it was nothing, it was just a peck. I was utterly disgusted. If you're going to do something, atleast have the maturity to stand behind your choice. Class presidents going soft when it's time to act and then lieing about what really happened. People blaming others for their faults. It's pathetic. Again, I don't care if you lie to get your way. I do care that when the sh!t hits the fan, you don't puss out.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Again, I don't care if you lie to get your way. I do care that when the sh!t hits the fan, you don't puss out.

You're contradicting yourself there. If someone lies when the sh1t hits the fan, they're doing it so they can have their way.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Minor difference. I lie so people will leave me alone so I can get to what I want to do. I lie when they think they've caught me skipping class. However, when something that will have dire consequences (crappy report card, no hobbies for next trimester for example) I don't hide the letter. I walk up and give my parents the paper and suck it up. It's MY FAULT, I won't blame it on some outside force.

When someone lies when the sh1t hits the fan, they aren't doing it to get their way. They HAVE their way. Their way is what got them in that situation and lieing at those points of your life does not make you feel proud of yourself. Yeah you can keep doing what you were doing, but there's a little thing called guilt and regret. Ofcourse, if you believe in any kind of morals.
 

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I agree now that you've explained what you meant.



By the way, how's it going with that chick you made a couple of threads about?
 

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We broke up yesterday. It was the most perfect subtle manipulation. I wasn't sure if she was a great catch or just a good faker and a few well placed questions, some failed responses and failed actions later, she comes to me yesterday thinking she knows what's going on and says 'let's just be friends'. I play along and then about an hour later, I take off my sweater and my t-shirt reads 'Stop pretending you don't want me'. At which point she understands that she was just played like a violin. She came up to me later asking me what the hell I did and how. Sigh, debutantes.
 

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What did you do to get her in the first place? Was she involved with anyone to begin with? Once I figure this whole thing out then I won't have to fill up the thing with my threads.
 

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Aah, I learned this lesson the hard way.

Lieing about things such as report cards can get you away from the consequence for a little while, but the truth will be out either way.

It always feels best to just take responsibility and accept the consequences when you **** up.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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