"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Hittin' on the barrista, or wait, she's hitting on me..?

MountainSlide

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I go this coffee shop all the time and a new barrista started working there, this girl is HB8. Anyway when I go in, she starts talking to me, to the extent that I have to interrupt her just to order my drink. It's all smiles and flirting and I would really like to bang her. I'm not a bad looking guy, I am probably about a 7 (realistically). Anyway I need third person advice on how to seal the deal and get this sexy girl out on a **** date.
 
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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"Well, (NAME), I'd love to talk more but I have to get going. Write your number down and I'll call you or shoot you a text sometime and we can talk more over a drink one night."

Then Shut up and wait for her response. Most likely she will give you the number. If not then pull out your phone and say "814..." Or whatever area code you are in and she will 90% complete the number for you as you punch it in your phone...
 

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marmel75 said:
"Well, (NAME), I'd love to talk more but I have to get going. Write your number down and I'll call you or shoot you a text sometime and we can talk more over a drink one night."
This is good. I would omit the "and we can talk over a drink part" though.
 

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she is already talking with you so just ask her number for you talk with her later,

one thing you can do, if is that cofee shops they write your name on the cup, tell her to write her number on it too, so you talk with each other later.

but be ready for her to flake, in any case its her job so as job goes she could be just doing it.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Get her to write it down or tell you.

Marmel has it down 100%

Grow some balls

If you want to check it real reheard it to her and change the last two digits

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She's just being friendly like women are to paying customers at shops and restaurants. I work in the business and if I had a dime for every guy that thought the help was hitting on them I would have a million dollars. Don't confuse a friendly conversation for her having interest to go on a date.
 

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Bull****.

As he explained she's going out if her way does her $5 an hour wage make her do that ?

I have the girls at my restaurants act nice to customers to keep them coming back and to get them bigger tips.

We will see what happens when he asks her out. I'm not expecting much to come of this.
 
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In my (limited) experience, you need to do more than just ask for a number when it comes to baristas and waitresses. The reason for that is you don't really need any confidence to approach them. If a woman is just walking around in the mall or on the street you have to risk rejection simply by talking to her. Talking to a waitress or barista doesn't risk any rejection, so you're not displaying any confidence either.

My go-to move it to simply "space-out" for a few seconds starting at her, then interrupt her and give her a genuine compliment. "wow, you have the most gorgeous blue eyes". Most guys won't have the balls to do that, so that's your chance to display your confidence and build her attraction. You could also not even ask for her number, just ask her when she's free and tell her to meet you back at the coffee shop for the date. That will build her attraction too, because she'll want to text you but can't because she doesn't have your number.

The goal is simply to make yourself stand out from the hundreds of other guys she sees every day. No doubt lots of guys ask for her number every day, so if that's all you do you're really limiting your chances of getting a date with her.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Cafe's are some of the best places to get laid. I used to work at Bookstores with cafe's in the, those places have so much bait walking around. Plus they're in a comfortable environment, not like a club.

If she's picking you up then just let it happen. Personally I stay away from staff. But for every rule there is an exception.
 
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