You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Every person who walks into a gym trains for vanity in a way, everyone does it to a certain degree if you say not, you're full of **** or look like ****. Strength can be your goal, yet c'mon what guy wouldn't want to look great from all angles when he takes off his shirt and jeans?Kerpal said:The vast majority of guys at regular commercial gyms are just training in a (usually failed) attempt to get laid more, but some guys are more serious about actually getting strong. I'm in the latter group. There's a huge difference between training to look pretty at the beach vs. training to be able to move heavy **** around. If I only cared about looks I would just do curls + bench like most of the bros at commercial gyms.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
So you're saying that it's impossible to maintain a good body AND be intelligent and successful?spinaroonie said:Yes, and I'm sure all the guys I see flexing their biceps at the gym are closet rocket scientists right? Get real dudes.
I was out at bars in clubs in those days too...and I think you have it way wrong. Bulk was more popular years ago, and these days a lean, muscular body is more favorable than a hulked out Mark McGwire look.I recall being there in 2005 when you'd see more "normal" guys. All these guys are just conforming to the current masculine ideal fuelled by the media - this look is "in" right now, and they're having their day in the sun.
Computer science dudes and med students don't make women all wet and moist? Wow, no way.Meanwhile the guys developing the innovations propelling society forward are sitting in in a dry spell more barren than the Sahara.
Yeah but you're spinning the argument to favor your f**ked up views. Bulked up, meathead football stars get more love than nerds? So do skinny rock stars and sissy actors.Think of how fundamentally fvcked up a society is that idolizes a guy tossing a football and scorns than a "nerd" developing the latest fuel cell technology to reduce our oil dependence. Who is doing more for empowering society? Who gets rewarded with more pvssy?
Physical attraction has been a part of the selection of sexual partners LONG BEFORE there was a "Western media". Don't be mad that society has advanced to the point where a woman actually has some ability to choose a partner instead of having her parents sell her off to the highest-bidding rich nerd.Can you imagine if Western media venerated nerds rather than scorning them? Can you imagine if sheep-like women whose desires are always influenced by media and preselection were "influenced" to believe THIS to be attractive?
Again, you're applying negative stereotypes to nerds and gym rats if you think that you CAN'T be physically fit AND intelligent. You're saying that the nerd is incapable of being interested in a better body, and you're saying that the gym rat can't possibly be literate and interested in intellectual pursuits. You insult both groups.Can you imagine if being academically fit (and not physically fit) correlated more with hot pvssy? We'd have cured cancer and have colonies in Mars and beyond by now. Guys would be hitting the books instead of hitting the gym. All our problems would be solved.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Displeasure. Bitterness. Anger. Rage. Disappointment.spinaroonie said:Yes, and I'm sure all the guys I see flexing their biceps at the gym are closet rocket scientists right? Get real dudes.
I guess my displeasure lies in the way pvssy is dispensed.
Maybe you are hanging out at the wrong clubs.I just got back from a club in which at least 3/4 of the dudes looked like they walked out of the set of the Jersey Shore. A bunch of Italian/Balkan/Persian looking dudes with short hair, muscles, and affliction shirts. I recall being there in 2005 when you'd see more "normal" guys. All these guys are just conforming to the current masculine ideal fuelled by the media - this look is "in" right now, and they're having their day in the sun.
Who are you talking about?Meanwhile the guys developing the innovations propelling society forward are sitting in in a dry spell more barren than the Sahara.
You see a Chinese girl who was interested in a man for his academic success.I recall meeting a Chinese girl who'd been serious with a guy for several years. She boasted that he'd won a number of math and architectural awards in numerous competitions. She didn't care how tall he was, how big is biceps were, how many friends he had, how many other hot girls were after him. It was the basis of his achievements that drove her attraction - achievements that had a tangible net *positive* effect on society.
So think about this, your train of thought is that all men who are academically successful and intelligent are single and not getting any. All jocks and bodybuilders automatically get laid and are having the times of their lives.Now imagine if more girls were like this. Think of how fundamentally fvcked up a society is that idolizes a guy tossing a football and scorns than a "nerd" developing the latest fuel cell technology to reduce our oil dependence. Who is doing more for empowering society? Who gets rewarded with more pvssy?
Scorning them? Who scorns them?Can you imagine if Western media venerated nerds rather than scorning them? Can you imagine if sheep-like women whose desires are always influenced by media and preselection were "influenced" to believe THIS to be attractive?
Utopia at its finest.Can you imagine if being academically fit (and not physically fit) correlated more with hot pvssy? We'd have cured cancer and have colonies in Mars and beyond by now. Guys would be hitting the books instead of hitting the gym. All our problems would be solved.
The Breakfast Club really gets his blood boiling.Kailex said:Scorning them? Who scorns them?
Movies from the 80's?
I still don't get why you are displaying so much bitterness towards men that want to work out when instead you should be directing it at the women who are falling in line with this.
^^ ThisDrum&Bass said:As a human being you are given a BODY. Your body in order to serve you well MUST BE MAINTAINED and DEVELOPED.
This is not a waste of time, rather a necessity.
Can't you make the same argument for the mind though? As a human being you are given a MIND and you have to exercise and develop it?CaptainJ said:^^ This
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
You dont understand the true nature of life and evolution, this is why you cannot understand your problem.spinaroonie said:Yes, and I'm sure all the guys I see flexing their biceps at the gym are closet rocket scientists right? Get real dudes.
I guess my displeasure lies in the way pvssy is dispensed.
I just got back from a club in which at least 3/4 of the dudes looked like they walked out of the set of the Jersey Shore. A bunch of Italian/Balkan/Persian looking dudes with short hair, muscles, and affliction shirts. I recall being there in 2005 when you'd see more "normal" guys. All these guys are just conforming to the current masculine ideal fuelled by the media - this look is "in" right now, and they're having their day in the sun.
Meanwhile the guys developing the innovations propelling society forward are sitting in in a dry spell more barren than the Sahara.
I recall meeting a Chinese girl who'd been serious with a guy for several years. She boasted that he'd won a number of math and architectural awards in numerous competitions. She didn't care how tall he was, how big is biceps were, how many friends he had, how many other hot girls were after him. It was the basis of his achievements that drove her attraction - achievements that had a tangible net *positive* effect on society.
Now imagine if more girls were like this. Think of how fundamentally fvcked up a society is that idolizes a guy tossing a football and scorns than a "nerd" developing the latest fuel cell technology to reduce our oil dependence. Who is doing more for empowering society? Who gets rewarded with more pvssy?
Can you imagine if Western media venerated nerds rather than scorning them? Can you imagine if sheep-like women whose desires are always influenced by media and preselection were "influenced" to believe THIS to be attractive?
Can you imagine if being academically fit (and not physically fit) correlated more with hot pvssy? We'd have cured cancer and have colonies in Mars and beyond by now. Guys would be hitting the books instead of hitting the gym. All our problems would be solved.
Stop trying to justify your nerdiness. For all this productivity you whine about, where's your Nobel Prize?spinaroonie said:The inherent fallacy of a society in which its most productive citizens are getting the least pvssy isn't without irony - and doesn't bode well for the long-term viability of said society.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.