Higher then normal flake rate, is it just me?

[spiegel549]

Been experiencing a higher then normal amount of flakey women over the past two months and it doesn't seem right to me.

I have been doing a lot of cold approaching in the bars clubs etc. I also have been doing a lot of Tindering (Dating App) Overall met some really cute women, had a few decent lays.

The thing is the past 2 months have been awful. Not in terms of getting laid but in terms of the quality of women I have been meeting. For Tinder its a given that the site is a pump and dump site but these women I have met up with have just been awful. From asking me if I am paying 5 minutes into the date, to talking about how much they hate men..

Even the woman I have been cold approaching in real time things started off great. Phone number, date set up, then they either flake an hour before, or they show up and are just awful people.

I literally walked away on 2 dates this month by saying "I can tell you right now this isn't going to work." I was so turned off I didn't even want to fuk them. I was THAT turned off.

I am really starting to think that 95% of women I meet are a fuking waste of time besides being used as a slam piece.

I hate to think like that, because I like to think there is SOME decent women out there but the past few months....man..its starting to wear me down to just treat all women like disposal pleasures.

What have you guys been experiencing?

 

[Bokanovsky]

Been experiencing a higher then normal amount of flakey women over the past two months and it doesn't seem right to me.

I have been doing a lot of cold approaching in the bars clubs etc. I also have been doing a lot of Tindering (Dating App) Overall met some really cute women, had a few decent lays.

I have been recently eating a lot of burritos. Higher than normal diarrhoea rate, or is it just me?

What I'm trying to say is that you are pre-selecting flaky women by relying on tinder and the cold approach. Most women on tinder are attention wh*res and most women you cold approach are either not interested or are reluctant to meet you cause they don't know you.

 

[spiegel549]

I have been recently eating a lot of burritos. Higher than normal diarrhoea rate, or is it just me?

What I'm trying to say is that you are pre-selecting flaky women by relying on tinder and the cold approach. Most women on tinder are attention wh*res and most women you cold approach are either not interested or are reluctant to meet you cause they don't know you.

hahaha. I feel you bro. I am setting myself up for the flakes by using the platforms that are know to have the highest flakes. Is what you are saying?

So take away Tinder and Cold approaching. What do you have left?

Co-works? Friends of friends?

Where is the best source of none flakey broads?

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Spiegel my man, I trust life is otherwise good.

Gonna concur about online dating in general. I had a terrible experience with a LTR that resulted from online and have had fairly limited success with it otherwise. Indeed the quality is lower because high-end broads simply don't need it.

I also have to agree I am starting to get a bit fatigued with the 'average' chicks. They have delusions of their own worth and treat guys as such. I wanna start going to the more high-end clubs and bars to access better quality. But I know I need more money and a better place before I do that that, so I'm applying for proper pay rises (like 50K+) and focussing on getting myself in better shape. Anyway, I digress.

My preference has always been pubs, bars and clubs because that's what I know. But also it occurs to me that women are there to socialise, partly to potentially be picked up, are more relaxed than during the day, and they are actually there to be spoken to, i.e. can't flake, nor ignore (an email). I treat these kind of 'approaches' almost as first date scenario. You can sell and do some quality assurance of our own - reducing the likelihood of flake and low quality.

I have also started going on socialising websites to actually just get out and meet people, without the pressure and expense of official 'dating'. I've been to one social and got three numbers. Though I probably could have gone home with a couple of them then and there, they weren't high quality and as I say, I'm starting to review my own standards.

I've gone to the trouble of finding you a social-site in LA. Might not be your bag, but it's an alternative all the same.

http://www.l7scene.com/

 

[spiegel549]

Spiegel my man, I trust life is otherwise good.

Gonna concur about online dating in general. I had a terrible experience with a LTR that resulted from online and have had fairly limited success with it otherwise. Indeed the quality is lower because high-end broads simply don't need it.

I also have to agree I am starting to get a bit fatigued with the 'average' chicks. They have delusions of their own worth and treat guys as such. I wanna start going to the more high-end clubs and bars to access better quality. But I know I need more money and a better place before I do that that, so I'm applying for proper pay rises (like 50K+) and focussing on getting myself in better shape. Anyway, I digress.

My preference has always been pubs, bars and clubs because that's what I know. But also it occurs to me that women are there to socialise, partly to potentially be picked up, are more relaxed than during the day, and they are actually there to be spoken to, i.e. can't flake, nor ignore (an email). I treat these kind of 'approaches' almost as first date scenario. You can sell and do some quality assurance of our own - reducing the likelihood of flake and low quality.

I have also started going on socialising websites to actually just get out and meet people, without the pressure and expense of official 'dating'. I've been to one social and got three numbers. Though I probably could have gone home with a couple of them then and there, they weren't high quality and as I say, I'm starting to review my own standards.

I've gone to the trouble of finding you a social-site in LA. Might not be your bag, but it's an alternative all the same.

http://www.l7scene.com/

Cool brother. Thanks for the response, and thanks for the site link. I am going to check it out! Good advice.

 

[VladPatton]

That's why I like social circle game best. At least you get to sample your target before you zero in on her. Otherwise, you really don't know what you're going to get. After all, you're meeting a complete stranger. Yeah you can do 100 cold approaches and you might get 15 numbers, but do you really wanna do them? Do you really wanna get shot down 85% of the time? Do you think that is good for your psyche? For me it isn't. I just don't give a shıt enough. If I happen to cross paths with a chick I find cute and interesting I pounce. If not, I got a-plenty of shıt to keep me occupied. With the way women are today, to boot...you need to be high 24/7 to do this game thing all the time.

 

[marmel75]

Try this, its worked for me before...

Wait a week or 10 days after they flake and shoot them something like this:

"Hey xxxx, just wanted to reconnect with you...been really busy with work/classes/life and have been swamped. Hope everything is going great! Let me know how you've been! ---marmel"

You will likely get a pretty warm response and many times the girl will actually invite you out...if not just ask what days she is free this week and ask again. I've had about a 50% rate getting them out and surprisingly enough a slightly higher bang rate on the 1st date...

Guys give up too easily here...its not about being desperate or needy its about being persistent...I'm 100% with Brad here...flakiness is just part of the deal with women, and its not always a sign of disinterest...

Besides sending a couple of extra texts and 3 mins worth if work isn't investing much extra time...if no date after second text then drop her