High status but low income or High income low status?

[tesla8520]

Hey guys.
If you could choose, would you be a low status man but with a very high paying business, like a fisherman or a butcher shop, or a bakery, or would you earn above average and be high status, like a Director, manager, senior, etc?

Provide a reason.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Is this personal preference or for what attracts women?

 

[Clockwerk50]

This doesn't make sense. Generally, the higher the status and attention someone has, the more money they tend to make.

 

[Gamisch]

This doesn't make sense. Generally, the higher the status and attention someone has, the more money they tend to make.

My geuss is that OP refers to :

The bartender who makes "less" money BUT has a high social status plus acsesss to women

The criminal who is locked up BUT gets DMs from women( it's a thing nowadays)

The broke band member ofcourse..

Vs

The geek who at best gets the role of being a provider aka pay pig even tho he'll get the better paying job LATER in( but missed out on the crucial years and lacks raw experience)

Sometimes even the rich kid who lacks a mouthpiece.


But I get what you're saying: on an individual level the bartender will sooner or later get a harsh reality check when his Stacy gets wined and dined by the geek...

At the end of the day they just might be sharing Stacey and they both get a role in HER life.

Personally I used to be that bartender type of guy so ask me how I know...

Money talks bs walks, while triggered feelz = triggered feelz...perhaps the sweet spot is being a man who HAD to fight for his come up and thus is familiar with all layers. Tupac with a degree ..

 

[Manure Spherian]

My geuss is that OP refers to :

The bartender who makes "less" money BUT has a high social status plus acsesss to women

The criminal who is locked up BUT gets DMs from women( it's a thing nowadays)

The broke band member ofcourse..

Vs

The geek who at best gets the role of being a provider aka pay pig even tho he'll get the better paying job LATER in( but missed out on the crucial years and lacks raw experience)

Sometimes even the rich kid who lacks a mouthpiece.


But I get what you're saying: on an individual level the bartender will sooner or later get a harsh reality check when his Stacy gets wined and dined by the geek...

At the end of the day they just might be sharing Stacey and they both get a role in HER life.

Personally I used to be that bartender type of guy so ask me how I know...

Money talks bs walks, while triggered feelz = triggered feelz...perhaps the sweet spot is being a man who HAD to fight for his come up and thus is familiar with all layers. Tupac with a degree ..

I see. So the answer to my question above is, “it’s all about pvssy”.

 

[BaronOfHair]

All depends on your a values:

A billionaire tech bro doesn't have much "status" outside the office, and he's generally A-OK with this... Playing Fort Nite in the solitude of his mansion is what he prefers, over contact with "normies"

Fellas who prefer a different lifestyle, by contrast, choose to spend less time at the office and more sharpening their overall social acumen. End result: You won't be a 1 percenter, but you'll be someone who's widely considered attractive

 

[plumber]

its not just the money its how others can see the money. having the money (baker, butcher,plumber) give personal peace and access to choices. visible money (banker, lawyer, Dr., entertainer) attracts attention to the money.

who feels better, quiet money or visible. for sure visible gets more general female attention. its not even a close race.

 

[MatureDJ]

Hey guys.
If you could choose, would you be a low status man but with a very high paying business, like a fisherman or a butcher shop, or a bakery, or would you earn above average and be high status, like a Director, manager, senior, etc?

Provide a reason.

Which way gets me more pvssy?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Let me paraphrase OP's question.

Which would you rather be?

1) A high earning (150K+) blue collar worker in a non sexy sounding profession(plumber, elevator repair, electrician) - not a lot of pvssy outside your social circle

2) A guy barely able to pay the rent but absolutely kills it as singer in a local band - gets tons of new pvssy every week

 

[inquisitor]

Hey guys.
If you could choose, would you be a low status man but with a very high paying business, like a fisherman or a butcher shop, or a bakery, or would you earn above average and be high status, like a Director, manager, senior, etc?

Provide a reason.

Too many words, too much distraction for something very simple.

If you are high status but low income, she sees you as incapable of earning enough money.
If you are low status but high income, she knows she can use you for your money.
Both are great short-term options.
Both are bad long-term options.

You can't even properly define what you're comparing.
You're saying fisherman/butcher/baker = low status,
and director/manager/senior = high status.
You're wrong.

Let me paraphrase OP's question.

Which would you rather be?

1) A high earning (150K+) blue collar worker in a non sexy sounding profession(plumber, elevator repair, electrician) - not a lot of pvssy outside your social circle

2) A guy barely able to pay the rent but absolutely kills it as singer in a local band - gets tons of new pvssy every week

A singer with that reputation cannot settle with a quality woman because of that reputation.
Wives of plumbers, elevator repairmen, and electricians would beg to differ about the "non-sexy" part.

Be neither. Be both, but better.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Hey guys.
If you could choose, would you be a low status man but with a very high paying business, like a fisherman or a butcher shop, or a bakery, or would you earn above average and be high status, like a Director, manager, senior, etc?

Provide a reason.

Pointless question because the assumption exists that this is an either or proposition and it's not.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

1)cleans sewers 5 hours daily for 10k monthly

2)welcome wealthy guests in a well known glamours bar 1.5k monthly

Most guys would pick 1, most girls would pick 2.

 

[zekko]

There's kind of not enough information here. Going just by the question, I'll take the high income because at least I can spend that. The money comes with its own benefits, which have nothing to do with women.

Now if it's a question of doing a job you hate for more money vs. doing a job you love for less money, that's a different question.
Or maybe it's working your fingers down to the bone for more money vs. doing a job for less money, but you get plenty of free time, that's a different question too.

 

[intricate design]

A few of my personas over the years:

the athletic guy, the starter on a sports team, popular, known player, unapologetic cheater (numerous preppy girlfriends)

the blue collar worker, binge drinker, small time drug dealer on the side (had a steady girlfriend/fiance)

the jobless guy, but with money and free time to date, always stoned (slept with an assortment of women)

I’ve played the role of a few other personas too. Notice how there’s an edge to each one? You need to have some demons

 

[jhonny9546]

@tesla8520

I can see that!
In Italy, many people are heirs of the parents business, so their status is actually connected to their family of origin.

If you are high status but low income, she sees you as incapable of earning enough money.
If you are low status but high income, she knows she can use you for your money.
Both are great short-term options.
Both are bad long-term options.

You can't even properly define what you're comparing.
You're saying fisherman/butcher/baker = low status,
and director/manager/senior = high status.
You're wrong.


A singer with that reputation cannot settle with a quality woman because of that reputation.
Wives of plumbers, elevator repairmen, and electricians would beg to differ about the "non-sexy" part.

Be neither. Be both, but better.

Interesting.. what do you mean by that?

 

[jhonny9546]

Most guys would pick 1, most girls would pick 2.

Hmm.
actually i know women who chose the 5k a month guy, even tho he is a fisherman or butcher, and they actually stink even when they're clean, over the very good looking guys who is a office employee for 2k a month

Notice how there’s an edge to each one?

I suspect the edge is not money, what is then?

 

[Travel memoir21]

Neither.

But I would like to get high income and live a monastic life - meditating, praying, writing my books, taking morning walks, lifting weights in the gym, yoga, lots of reading and living a monastic lifestyle without needing women’s approval.

Oh yes, I live that life. I’m Stuck being a remote writer because I’m Schizophrenic and there’s some professions I can’t work in. But all I gotta say is a combination of believing in a higher power, knowing some esoteric principles and some cool stuff about a healthy lifestyle made me quite a content man still.

 

[tesla8520]

Thanks for anyone contributing here.

What I mean...

Let's say we have the same guy in front of us, a good-looking guy.

Now, in case A, he becomes a doctor, earns 5,000 euros a month, and lives a good life without showing too much luxury.

In case B, he's an electrician who earns 15,000 euros a month from his business, managing 5 employees in a city of 80,000 people. He shows he has money by buying expensive cars and living an expensive lifestyle.

Am I the only one who thinks 9 out of 10 women would choose A rather than B?

As someone here said, to get a long-term partner, you need both.
If you want a woman of value, you need both a career/profession that involves contact with people, but one that's high-status (he could even be a firefighter, because even though he's low-status, he's seen as a leader in emergencies and in his job), and also bring home good money.

If we were to gather 10 couples at a party, and there were a doctor, a lawyer, an electrician, a fisherman, a finance banker, and a firefighter, and the electrician was the richest of them all, I think women are still intimidated by the lawyer and the doctor, but not by the others... maybe a little by the firefighter... So, do you get the point?
Given equal skill, being a doctor or a lawyer earns the respect of the people around you.
That respect convert into people admiring you because of your knowledge.
That turns into social proof.
That makes you high value.

A policeman also comes to mind!

 

[Gamisch]

Thanks for anyone contributing here.

What I mean...

Let's say we have the same guy in front of us, a good-looking guy.

Now, in case A, he becomes a doctor, earns 5,000 euros a month, and lives a good life without showing too much luxury.

In case B, he's an electrician who earns 15,000 euros a month from his business, managing 5 employees in a city of 80,000 people. He shows he has money by buying expensive cars and living an expensive lifestyle.

Am I the only one who thinks 9 out of 10 women would choose A rather than B?

As someone here said, to get a long-term partner, you need both.
If you want a woman of value, you need both a career/profession that involves contact with people, but one that's high-status (he could even be a firefighter, because even though he's low-status, he's seen as a leader in emergencies and in his job), and also bring home good money.

If we were to gather 10 couples at a party, and there were a doctor, a lawyer, an electrician, a fisherman, a finance banker, and a firefighter, and the electrician was the richest of them all, I think women are still intimidated by the lawyer and the doctor, but not by the others... maybe a little by the firefighter... So, do you get the point?
Given equal skill, being a doctor or a lawyer earns the respect of the people around you.
That respect convert into people admiring you because of your knowledge.
That turns into social proof.
That makes you high value.

A policeman also comes to mind!

I'd say:

Why do we ( still) care about what "she " thinks?

Because we as " experts " oughtta know by now that she will eventually sleep with both guys from your example! Thats why she is nothing more but a byproduct, but NEVER the most important thing we should focus on!

You could even add some WAY lower status men to the mix like prisoners, NEET adult gamers and even old fat ugly men. They will/ can all get a slice of pie from her...

So why would we care? It's your turn untill its my turn...

 

[tesla8520]

Why do we ( still) care

It's your turn untill its my turn...

You're absolutely right. It makes sense.

That said, a man should always focus on the type of career that gives him the most status in the eyes of others.