You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You may join @ week 3.NobodyCares1 said:Hi i just found out about this site a few days ago... and i want to ask if i can still join even after the deadline if it's even necessary... i looked at the two weeks and steps i should do and i basically did it already...
You're obviously too insignificant.Jack Wealthy said:Weird, despite the fact I've completed two weeks and am leading one in just over two months, I'm not on the list.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
You didn't mention her in your long post?ScottMustaine said:Should I be doing it if I got girlfriend ? I as myself feel strict about contacts with others until in relationship, and I broke up because of those reasons. This would be like breaking my own rules.
Asking for opinion. (obviously)
Personally, I have a girlfriend and am still doing this. But she obviously has no idea about my pickup life. But this is because I have fvcked up morals compared to what society has placed on us (then again, maybe my morals are more true to human nature...or they're just fvcked up). I have no problem with cheating on my gf, but this is a personal choice. Like LS said, you shouldn't break your own moralityScottMustaine said:Should I be doing it if I got girlfriend ? I as myself feel strict about contacts with others until in relationship, and I broke up because of those reasons. This would be like breaking my own rules.
Asking for opinion. (obviously)
Yes. If I get a girlfriend during this, I'll just not pull any girls I talk to.ScottMustaine said:Should I be doing it if I got girlfriend ? I as myself feel strict about contacts with others until in relationship, and I broke up because of those reasons. This would be like breaking my own rules.
Asking for opinion. (obviously)
Just dont kiss anyone then. Problem solved. Now start!ScottMustaine said:No, I don't have a girlfriend. But If I do get through this process, what to do about the other one's. Go no contact ,and when it's over re-connect ?
And if I understood correctly, even when I get girlfriend, I should continue talking to random girls and getting numbers.
What If one of those girls gets into you, you like her, but you're in relationship, which you also like ?
I never cheated. It's as I said my moral view and it would me eat me alive.
Chances are that you go no contact, and when it's over , re-connect with the one who was into you ? If she isn't it's a bummer.
But I guess I got nothing to lose. If she doesn't like me, at least I know her and can get her friends. Without meeting her, I wouldn't have a chance with her. Thus I think I support this bootcamp.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Done.DJ Bax said:Hey I just joined the forums after reading on them for around two months, care if I join in and start on week 3?
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.