Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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High interest level then flake

Vanilla

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Ok so I've contacted this woman from myspace, she asked for my aim screen name, then I asked for her phone number. I called her a few days later to set up a dinner date (since coffee is boring imo and you have more to talk about).

Later I find that she's been calling my phone twice, sent me messages in my inbox and asked if I was around on IM. I replied to her IM, and only confirmed that we were still on for Friday night. Then she comes asking out of the blue:

[11:06] HB: why u want to meet up?
[11:06] me: I'm interested in knowing more about you
[11:09] HB: May I ask u a question?
[11:10] HB: Are u expecting more after dinner?

My initial reaction was a one night stand type of thing, and this confirmed it. (English is not her first language)

[11:13] HB: how about hook-up?

I get a call (again) asking to push it from 8pm to 9pm for work and now just a few minutes ago, I get a text message saying she can't make it because she has to work tonight. Not once did she mention that earlier. I'm not going to pursue her, but I can't help thinking what would cause her to change plans so quickly.

Thoughts?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Well, you've never even met her, so there's no way to go back and figure out if you could have done differently.

I mean, she could be some guy with a fake profile pranking you, so don't give it another thought.
 

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Phyzzle said:
Well, you've never even met her, so there's no way to go back and figure out if you could have done differently.

I mean, she could be some guy with a fake profile pranking you, so don't give it another thought.
Wasn't a guy since I talked to her on the phone, and pics werent fake either.

I'm just wondering if she's embarrassed about wanting to hookup so easily, unless I'm overlooking something else.
 

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she thinks u just want her for sex. u didnt get to know her well enough on an emotional level. Why will see meet up if all u want is a bang
 

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Vanilla said:
Ok so I've contacted this woman from myspace, she asked for my aim screen name, then I asked for her phone number. I called her a few days later to set up a dinner date (since coffee is boring imo and you have more to talk about).

Later I find that she's been calling my phone twice, sent me messages in my inbox and asked if I was around on IM. I replied to her IM, and only confirmed that we were still on for Friday night. Then she comes asking out of the blue:

[11:06] HB: why u want to meet up?
[11:06] me: I'm interested in knowing more about you
[11:09] HB: May I ask u a question?
[11:10] HB: Are u expecting more after dinner?

My initial reaction was a one night stand type of thing, and this confirmed it. (English is not her first language)

[11:13] HB: how about hook-up?

I get a call (again) asking to push it from 8pm to 9pm for work and now just a few minutes ago, I get a text message saying she can't make it because she has to work tonight. Not once did she mention that earlier. I'm not going to pursue her, but I can't help thinking what would cause her to change plans so quickly.

Thoughts?
My own experience is that if a girl asks what I'm looking for then it's usually because she wants to say no. It also implies that she is putting you in the same category as other guys who want something from her.

A reframe is best: "What makes you think I'm expecting anything?"
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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abcd_z

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Perhaps a better reframe for that would be "Whatever happens, happens. If we click and something happens, then that's great, but if not, that's also fine."

This implies that you're not coming from a place of scarcity, and that you're not going to put too much pressure on any one situation or any one girl. Very attractive qualities to have, IMHO.
 
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