High Body Counts

[Divorced w 3]

You are asking me to think logically…

…not in the purely monogamous way some red pill men are hoping for.

They’re not asking you to think logically. It’s a facade. Red pill is entirely based on theory.

A never-was rock hobbiest who spent a couple years on the road living in vans and banging bar maids and scene girls, who happened to be a psych major, who never spent a day working in the field of psychology came here one day after he personally become a married, monogamous man and his music hobby inevitably extinguished.

He wisely identified and cultivated a market of failing, pathetic, desperate men who had become bitter with the way evolution has culled their kind out over time, and allowed this very board to be his laboratory inventing a self help program. In doing that a movement was born.

That movement needed some validity since it was essentially nothing more than the writings of L Ron Hubbard for pathetic, lost men. Enter terms like ‘pair bonding’ which were straight up plagiarized from real science in order to offer some sort of proof that this was a real thing.

I challenge anyone to look at the charts and research provided above contracted with the real research I posted from actual science. It’s been 24 hours and counting. You can tag these luminaries, they won’t reply either. It’s a power rule, you evade you don’t engage.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Check out these pre-marriage notch count statistics. The 2010s stats end in the early 2010s (2012-2013).

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By now (2024), it's likely that 20%+ of first time brides have a notch count of 10+.

Source please.

 

[member162951]

Interesting article from LinkedIn....

The influence of multiple partners on women’s pair bonding

The concept and dynamics of a relationship have been ever-changing. One question that floats is whether the number of partners a woman has been with affects how her subsequent relationships take shape.

www.linkedin.com

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[Divorced w 3]

Interesting article from LinkedIn....

The influence of multiple partners on women’s pair bonding

The concept and dynamics of a relationship have been ever-changing. One question that floats is whether the number of partners a woman has been with affects how her subsequent relationships take shape.

www.linkedin.com

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No sources in that article

 

[member162951]

No sources in that article

I know, responders mentioned that as well.
One responder found this:

The Brain and Sex - Medical Institute

Sex is an important, healthy appetite for humans. Modern neuroscience research has uncovered startling new information about how sex affects our brains. The effect of sex on our brains can have all sorts of consequences, including many that scientists are still working to understand. But we...

www.medinstitute.org

 

[parabellum]

Yeh man we have to take accountability as men and admit that we missed our opportunity. High school age is when homo sapiens were designed to make long lasting pair bonds. College is late and mid 20s is super late. All of our most impactful bonding has already occurred by 18 or 19 ( for women anyway).

Couldn’t agree more. I have tried to articulate that anything else is just later bloomers and it’s just the “leftovers” from that process . Of course, you can still do stuff with that, and most in this situation do, because it’s just unreasonable to retire yourself from the pool, but being mindful of this should help not to get too attached.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I know, responders mentioned that as well.
One responder found this:

The Brain and Sex - Medical Institute

Sex is an important, healthy appetite for humans. Modern neuroscience research has uncovered startling new information about how sex affects our brains. The effect of sex on our brains can have all sorts of consequences, including many that scientists are still working to understand. But we...

www.medinstitute.org

Our Board of Directors

www.medinstitute.org

 

[member162951]

Our Board of Directors

www.medinstitute.org

Lol, fair enough.

The article isn't Gospel, just another perspective I thought was interesting, that's all.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Lol, fair enough.

The article isn't Gospel, just another perspective I thought was interesting, that's all.

Speaking of Gospel, the living founder is a Christian writer and former Bush appointee, ie he’s a ‘beating heart’ proponent

An Abstinence of Judgment

The Bush administration's new appointee to the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV / AIDS is motivated more by ideology than science, critics warn.

www.austinchronicle.com

 

[FlirtLife]

Religious rules prohibited pre-marital sex for hundreds of years. That wasn't arbitrary, even for those of us who don't practice it. I think that rule grew out of the bond formed between two virgins experiencing their first time together. Maybe that could be a starting point in the definition of a strong pair bond.

 

[inquisitor]

Check out these pre-marriage notch count statistics. The 2010s stats end in the early 2010s (2012-2013).

View attachment 12371

By now (2024), it's likely that 20%+ of first time brides have a notch count of 10+.

Where was the study conducted?

 

[Divorced w 3]

Where was the study conducted?

Waco, Texas

 

[inquisitor]

Because the magic number is 6. The rate of divorce skyrockets of women that have had more than 6 sexual partners. @SW15 had the stuE="pipeman84, post: 3104587, member: 160629"]
Take a 25yrs old girl who's had 4 boyfriends during the past 9 years. Many would say, wife material right there. But let's think logically, how is she going to handle the challenges of marriage and having kids, when she couldn't hold on to any of the 4 boyfriends? That means she's either too dumb in picking them and/or lacks loyalty and/or has some deep seated issues that chase the guys away.

The marriage might not end in divorce, so you don't see cases like her in the statistics. And again, I'm asking you to think logically: why is that? Because 1. she's made such a giant leap in self development that all the problems mentioned above have disappeared or 2. out of necessity: ie, she's older now, wants to fulfil the social circle expectations, has kids and needs the help and extra income etc.

Such logic breaks down when you consider that the four boyfriends are the dumb ones (which in recent times, is just as likely). She would have held on had one of them knew what they were doing.

It is not mere logic.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Actually it's simple logic that the higher the body count, the higher the chances she's not good for anything other than quick sex. I'm not talking here about ridiculous situations like those mentioned in OP (20 guys by the time she finished college and suchlike.)

Take a 25yrs old girl who's had 4 boyfriends during the past 9 years. Many would say, wife material right there. But let's think logically, how is she going to handle the challenges of marriage and having kids, when she couldn't hold on to any of the 4 boyfriends? That means she's either too dumb in picking them and/or lacks loyalty and/or has some deep seated issues that chase the guys away.

The marriage might not end in divorce, so you don't see cases like her in the statistics. And again, I'm asking you to think logically: why is that? Because 1. she's made such a giant leap in self development that all the problems mentioned above have disappeared or 2. out of necessity: ie, she's older now, wants to fulfil the social circle expectations, has kids and needs the help and extra income etc.

I’ve only been here under a year. Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems to me most here do not want marriage. If that’s the case, I don’t see why anyone would care about body count.

Some are not fond of studies pertaining to this. My own observation is that nearly all women I know since 12 years old who were what I call “professional girlfriends” since young ages are divorced. Those who were more subdued and did not have one gorillion bore-friends are married with children and appear to be very satisfied with their lives, my family cousins included. The latter never made their relations with men and their sexuality the focal points of their existences.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Religious rules prohibited pre-marital sex for hundreds of years.

Yes true. Then every religion / cult ends up with clergy and leadership breaking those prohibitions and others that shouldn't even need to be considered. Put a guy in charge and he'll be happy to tell people when, how and whom to fukk but he'll rarely follow his own doctrine. It's like sexual socialism.

 

[FlirtLife]

Yes true. Then every religion / cult ends up with clergy and leadership breaking those prohibitions and others that shouldn't even need to be considered. Put a guy in charge and he'll be happy to tell people when, how and whom to fukk but he'll rarely follow his own doctrine. It's like sexual socialism.

The point of my post was the last line, not the first.

Religious rules prohibited pre-marital sex for hundreds of years. That wasn't arbitrary, even for those of us who don't practice it. I think that rule grew out of the bond formed between two virgins experiencing their first time together. Maybe that could be a starting point in the definition of a strong pair bond.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

The point of my post was the last line, not the first.

I see. Makes sense what you're saying about it being a modern starting point. Personally I think virginity is an overrated concept but not everyone shares my views.

 

[LTG71]

@SW15’s data is probably indicative of the declining quantity of healthy families over the past decades. The increase of broken homes creates more broken people. I would venture to say that this pair bonding is a reflection of her self worth. Does she have self respect and high standards instilled from her family or is she insecure and trying to find validation from multiple partners? If she starts off with lots of baggage, she’s not going to be a good bet in the long run. This current 304 culture is going to backfire as most men don’t want to get into an LTR with someone who has been ran through. Short turn fun sure, but not for the long term.

 

[JackTripper]

Because the magic number is 6. The rate of divorce skyrockets of women that have had more than 6 sexual partners. @SW15 had the study somewhere.

Do what you want. I’m just relaying the data. If she’s taken too many dvcks, she can’t pair bond. It is what it is.

I think those are just generalized numbers but the reasoning behind it is telegony.

Telegony means that a women stores mens DNA inside her for her lifetime, permanently. All of her sex partners DNA never washes away.

That is why some couples who share the same skin color can have a baby together but the baby comes out a completely different color skin. Because the DNA of her previous partners is stores inside her, permanently.

This is one of the reasons why there were anti miscegenation laws against race mixing, until only recently.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Telegony is an ancient theory suggesting that an offspring can inherit characteristics from a previous mate of the mother, aside from the biological father.

This concept dates back to pre-genetic science and has been largely discredited in modern biology, especially with respect to humans.In humans, there's no scientific evidence supporting telegony.

Genetic inheritance follows established principles of genetics, where a child's DNA comes directly from the genes of their biological parents. Advances in genetics, such as the understanding of DNA and the human genome, have provided clear mechanisms for inheritance and development, which do not include telegony.

Studies in some non-human species have suggested instances that might seem to support telegony-like effects, but these are related to microbial or epigenetic factors rather than the direct inheritance of traits from a previous mate.

In humans, the scientific consensus does not support the concept of telegony as a mechanism of genetic inheritance.