"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Hey AFC, read the fundamentals.

oOh Nasty

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AFC = Average Frustrated Chump.

It's the millenial's version of "simp."

And this forum has quite a handful of active AFCs who seem to constantly rationalize why they should NOT take the advice of the members here who only want them to become better.

Please go through the fundamentals. They are still HIGHLY relevant today, probably even more relevant than ever. Read the BOOK OF POOK. Go read some old Roissy stuff. Read some Doc Love.

Then go back and reread your posts and find out why you are an ABSOLUTE REPELLANT to the women that you desire.

The dudes that I have in mind have the TOTAL WRONG MINDSET despite being here for years and having thousands more posts than myself already.

Those of us who reply to original threads and try to help the noobs do so with the intent to help them become HOLISTICALLY ATTRACTIVE to women. A lot of that starts with state of mind and the general understanding of how women actually operate and what they respond to despite what the masses of these women will try to tell everyone. Yet, a lot of the posts that these active AFCs make still scream Disney soul-mate, blue-pill, one-itis ****. Which lead me to believe that they probably haven't even gone through the basic fundamentals of what being a DJ is all about.

As the years have gone by, the OGs that try to help the newer members have become even milder in their posts. I guess the world is a little too sensitive these days so we're less blunt. But I remember when I was able to say **** like (and I'm paraphrasing myself) "the type of women you should go for are the ones that can make you blow a hole through a wall with your load."

I think we, as a forum, have become too nice to these noobs and thousands of posts and years later, they're all still the same AFCs asking how to attract ONE SPECIFIC WOMAN rather than how to increase their value and let multiple women of their type come to them. And then you have posters who still seem to not understand the concept of a masculine/dominant frame and are always asking questions regarding negotiating with women in some way, completely negating the idea of frame.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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The site is actually better than when I first joined. In 2024, I made a post calling out how it had turned into an incel circle-jerk forum. You can still read the responses from both old and new members, but the end result was that the mods and the community pushed a lot of those people out.

Incel Circlejerk | SoSuave Discussion Forum

I also agree that if someone is going to make a post asking for advice, the bare minimum requirement should be stating what material they’ve already read and their current physical stats, including gym progress.
 

FlexpertHamilton

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I don't peruse this forum too much anymore, can you give examples of what you're talking about?
 
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