"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Herpes...
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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I thought it was the genital herpes that condemns you to sexual-death.
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Stéphane said:
What are your symptoms??
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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Stéphane said:
Damn, I've never heard of that before. I thought you just get a cold sore or something.
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Stéphane said:
Get that checked out buddy, call a doctor.
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Good lord - you got this from kissing. Well, it's a good thing I didn't catch it myself from the three girls that I had kissed in my life last year. That's why whenever I'm thinking of kissing someone, I hesitate, because you never know who has an STD nowadays.
But you have people worried that they are breaking DJ rules by not kissing on the first or second date, well, suppose the date has herpes, then I guess that mistake may be a delay from catching it whenever they do start kissing, but then I guess I'm just a little boy for ranting about STD's, as some people would say on here, and you for complaining about it.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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I don't think "most people" on here have blisters popping up all over their lips. I never have had that have you?Luke Skywalker said:
Stephan call a doctor immediately!
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It also means you have to take medication when cold sores pop up, so you don't infect others. Sucks for you man, didn't you look at her mouth and see the cold sore? You should have been more careful, be glad it ain't something worse like AIDS.
If you wanna feel better know that about 40% of AMERICAN SKANKS have the same thing, so now you don't really have to worry about it.
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I don't think it's part of the equation of a seduction to make sure a girl is clean other than staying away from girls altogether. Especially for easy girls or hoes. Even if you did check out all the girls, there may be one of them where a disease passes through the tests undetected, or maybe it's that one girl you got too carried away with at the heat of the moment and you didn't want to kill the mood. All it takes is one infected girl that falls through the cracks of your grid. Let's say you are seducting lots of girls, do you have the time to check all of them out to see if they are clean to a doctor, and do you think every single girl is going to cooperate with something like that?Nip/Tuck said:
You mean, before kissing a girl, you perhaps just meet and are trying to seduce, you are going to suggest that you both have a date at the doctor's office so you could do a thorough medical examination on her just in case you get it by kissing her on her lips?
If you are going to get paranoid about herpes and STD's on skin-skin contact, including lip kissing, then what the heck, then you may as well be as I am in here and cut your risk down to zero.
but then again, what's the point of all of this success with women stuff, if you will just end up with STD's with someone, congratulations - you are a DJ, here's your STD prize - what's next AIDS, yeah, go get that hottie - you are a real stud. See, when a woman rejects you, an STD is also rejecting you, but you don't see that, all you see is the hot skank and let the little head say...approach, rapport, seduce, screw her, but big head say, watch out for STD, listen to big head next time.
Five girls - what the heck are you thinking? What's next, how many times do you have to do the same thing with different girls? If you just settled your experience with one or two girls you felt a deep connection with rather than going on an ego trip making out with all of those girls, then maybe you couldn't have this problem. But again, you get too successful, you get greedy and get more than you bargain for.
So, if you want to be successful with women, just don't have sex, you blow them off if they want to have sex and have an ego trip instead and instead go home and jerk off.
Cold sore is a symptom of this - noted.NipTuck said:It also means you have to take medication when cold sores pop up, so you don't infect others. Sucks for you man, didn't you look at her mouth and see the cold sore? You should have been more careful, be glad it ain't something worse like AIDS.
Thought it was like 80%.NipTuck said:
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
When I camed to the seduction world I knew the risks, and I pretty much knew that I would eventualy get herpes. It's no big deal, but kind of sucks.
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That's the way to look at it, you can't let stuff like this get you down.Stéphane said:
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.