DJF or John
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She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Please do bro.DJF or John said:I'll continue this discussion later this week.
Hey thx man...I realize I should not have been harsh on you. The last thing we need on this forum are out-azzhole contests.DJF or John said:Well let's finish this discussion here a bit.
Btw rakishness thanks for those links, I'm studying those currently.
sstype, I like you man. You see, we can have a "discussion" and politely disagree with each other, without being outright childish and immature like the God of Getting Rejected has to be, lol. Okay, what you got?
"Well DJF, I think I will have to respectfully disagree with a lot of what you said but you are entitled to your opinion."
See, this is why I like you. We can both learn from each other. Hey dude, I don't know everything, I come here to contribute as well as learn.
"Look, sexual state should be used with caution given today's anti-male/masculinity culture. YOU may think you are seductive, smooth, and cool but if the girl your gaming thinks you're a creep then at the very least she will run away from you."
Hmmm....continue...
"Just be careful. With all these harrassment/rape charges flying around like nothing, all it takes is one screwed up chick to ruin you."
Hey now you know what, you got a very great point there. Lol, it's the "NBA Basketball Player" problem lol. You got a chick that clearly wants to fvck you, then you fvck her, then she wants to say you raped her, lol.
Here's the thing, this situation is a possibility, period. The only thing I would suggest is to just WATCH the women that you fvck.
From what I read it´s this:shrewd said:so, uh, how exactly does one get into this sexual state? Quit wanking it? walk around with a hard on? lol, sorry, but seriously could you give a better description of it, maybe some more examples? thanks
I believe being sexually agressive without verbalizing it sums it all up. I got a question though. If you act agressive (always kino her etc..), doesn´t the girl lose interest in you cuz you stop being a challenge cuz u made it clear that you like her early on?makes you speak with a better more attractive tone of voice (bedroom voice)
causes you to hold eye contact better and more sensually
causes you to touch her more and more sexually (getting her ready for the sexual encounter)
causes you to keep a level of physical closeness that builds a strong sense of comfort in her
causes you to not pander or be a beggar (as you realize are just as valuable sexually), so,
you don't buy her drinks like the rest of the losers do
you don't give insincere compliments like the rest of the losers do
you don't pander to her to entertain like the rest of the losers do
you don't brag like the losers do
you don't come off sexually androgynous and hide your masculinity like the losers do
And as a result of all this, you are not branded yet another everyday chump hitting on her.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
actually, that idea sounds like an oxymoron to me. I mean, I can picture an ugly guy attempting PU, but being unconfident how would he muster up the courage to try a PU in the first place? If you're unconfident you're not even gonna try to pickup.Zebedee said:You make some good points about guys over thinking things and the use of sexual tension, but to say that confidence and looks have nothing to do with picking up is retarded. Ugly guys with no confidence very rarely pull fit girls thats a fact.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
What's a good way to get into the state? I'm starting to understand u but it's still confusingDJF or John said:And Boschy understand, it's not about being a nice guy or a bad guy.
That has nothign to do with it, I keep telling guys, that WHO YOU ARE has nothing to do with it, so BE YOURSELF.
The problem is that MOST nice guys, either hide their horniness around chicks, or they will show it, but they show it verbally and bluntly, and that's not sexy.
The nice guy needs to be horny around a chick, but channel his horniness through his eyes, his walk, his talk, his behavior, his conversation.
It's a total non verbal, "I'm bout to fvck you."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.