"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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V-A-L-U-E
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That is what it's all about.

The more valuable she thinks you are the more likely she is to sleep with you.

People always want to align with people with higher value.

That's why we act nervous if we meet a celebrity because we consider him as having higher value.

In order to get the girl you MUST have higher value in her eyes.

Being good looking for example is a form of value. However it usually isn't enough to get the 9s and 10s.

Here is an example.

Imagine a guy as good looking as Brad Pitt going to a bar. Women will check him out. The hot females will also notice that and will feel attraction, too.

Now imagine a guy walking in with an Armani suit, ten HB 10s walking behind him and he is waving around with 100$ bills.

Women will feel WAY more attraction for that guy than for the Brad Pitt looking guy because they want to suck value from him and make their lives better.

He has MORE VALUE than the other guy.

If you don't have all that you have to create the illusion that you have that by conveying it through believable stories.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO SELL DREAMS!!!

Make her believe that you are the best guy there is in this world.

Lie if you have to.

Women and most people are value suckers. An alpha male is a value giver or at least pretends be one.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Do an example of an average joe and how he would "Pretend" to have "Value." I would like to see how you show value far superior then any other guy in the club right when you walk in, tell me what he does and how he acts if you cant seems you dont know what your preaching.
 

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I'm pretty sure Mystery already covered this, but what would you say constitutes value
 

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Noob it's {Attraction>Comfort>Seduction} > Relationship , and Mystery covered all of this.
 

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j0n024 said:
Do an example of an average joe and how he would "Pretend" to have "Value." I would like to see how you show value far superior then any other guy in the club right when you walk in, tell me what he does and how he acts if you cant seems you dont know what your preaching.
There are so many things that can raise your value in the venue.

Here are some examples.

You get to know the people that work in the club. (Social proof goes up)

Bring friends with you. Female friends are even better and let everyone see that you are the leader by walking in front of them.

Get clothes that make you stand out in a good way (Peacocking if you want to use PUA terms)

You are the social guy in the room. The guy that talks to everybody and has interesting things to say that hook people which makes them want to be around you.

Be the guy that especially girls want to hang around with.

Be very well groomed.

Have an identity and let people know. Make them know that you are a doctor or a musician or whatever.

The right bodylanguage and verbal communication skills is very important.

You convey in stories that you are the sh!t in a non bragging way to the people in the club.
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Pick up is a process.

You can't just walk into a club and people will be magically drawn to you.

You have to raise your value more and more while time goes by.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Stéphane said:
Noob it's {Attraction>Comfort>Seduction} > Relationship , and Mystery covered all of this.
I know, but most people on here still don't seem to get it.
 

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ChrizZ said:
You can't just walk into a club and people will be magically drawn to you.
How much experience can an 18 year old have with "going into clubs."
 

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Dongfu said:
How much experience can an 18 year old have with "going into clubs."
I have been going to clubs since I was 15. I'm from Europe.
 

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I have been going to clubs since I was 15. I'm from Europe.
Cool, that changes my perception of you. I always pictured you as some ****y American kid. My bad.

But you are still 18. You seem to understand a lot, but your posting here where there are guys who have been around a little longer. It's good to be ambitious when you are young, but as you get older you will realize more that success with women isn't based on any "one" thread. In fact, it cant be given to you in a thread at all. And it's highly unlikely that if you could, it would be authored by a teenager, who is articulating on another pick-up guru's analogy.
 

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Cool, that changes my perception of you. I always pictured you as some ****y American kid. My bad.

But you are still 18. You seem to understand a lot, but your posting here where there are guys who have been around a little longer. It's good to be ambitious when you are young, but as you get older you will realize more that success with women isn't based on any "one" thread. In fact, it cant be given to you in a thread at all. And it's highly unlikely that if you could, it would be authored by a teenager, who is articulating on another pick-up guru's analogy.
Yes, but think about any hookup or gf you ever had.

She saw you as having higher value didn't she?

That's why hot chicks always go for the football jocks in high school, rich business men, musicians, gangleaders or drug dealers.

It's because they have higher value in their eyes because those people have something that every b!tch wants: POWER and the idea that those guys make their lives more exciting.

If power and having higher value than a woman doesn't get her, then what does?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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No your right, but it takes more then "higher value" to create interest. If you have higher value (like that nerd who's a millionaire), but you still can't create attraction, then girls still won't f*ck you.

Higher Value + Attraction = Interest

Also if you over value yourself, girls won't even try to get you. They will disqualify themselves, and then block all emotional connections in order to protect themselves from getting hurt.
 

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No your right, but it takes more then "higher value" to create interest. If you have higher value (like that nerd who's a millionaire), but you still can't create attraction, then girls still won't f*ck you.

Higher Value + Attraction = Interest

Also if you over value yourself, girls won't even try to get you. They will disqualify themselves, and then block all emotional connections in order to protect themselves from getting hurt.
Having higher value in her eyes IS Attraction!

That's why some people get away with lines like "So, do you come here often" and others get totally blown off.

If you over value yourself it's your job to give value to her by giving sincere compliments.
 

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Makes me think. I've been too focused on trying to seduce (aka kino etc) and while that's important I really need to raise my value and find ways to demonstrate that. Otherwise I'm going to have to keep hoping I get lucky with random hookups at parties. Hmm...

Thanks!
 

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You on the right track bro, but this higher value talk - its been said before a lot of times. Dont get mad at me bro, but making posts with that kind of title - you're not on that level in the game yet. You bite off more than you can chew right now. Do your thang, whatever works/doesnt work for you and share it. Don't be tellin people "only thread you will need you'll get any woman like that"
 

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ChrizZ said:
Having higher value in her eyes IS Attraction!

That's why some people get away with lines like "So, do you come here often" and others get totally blown off.

If you over value yourself it's your job to give value to her by giving sincere compliments.
WRONG! Attraction, and higher value are two seperate things. Just picture this you have that big gankster looking black guy, that gets all the girls wet, but when he tries to f*ck them they all say no. Because he's at the lowest level of the social pyramide, then the girl tells her girlfriends "oh, he's so hot, but I would never do that with him".

Then you have the small geeky guy that's a millionaire. Everyone should be attracted to him, but there not. He's just too AFC, nerdy, and doesn't get girls going wet.

IMO attraction, and higher value are two different things, you have more mystery to read.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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DJVladdy said:
You on the right track bro, but this higher value talk - its been said before a lot of times. Dont get mad at me bro, but making posts with that kind of title - you're not on that level in the game yet. You bite off more than you can chew right now. Do your thang, whatever works/doesnt work for you and share it. Don't be tellin people "only thread you will need you'll get any woman like that"
I'm not there yet, but being perceived as having higher value IS the only thing that matters when it comes to getting chicks.

"Spitting game" is just a tool to get to that stage.
 

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I'm not there yet, but being perceived as having higher value IS the only thing that matters when it comes to getting chicks.

"Spitting game" is just a tool to get to that stage.
:nono:
 

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WRONG! Attraction, and higher value are two seperate things. Just picture this you have that big gankster looking black guy, that gets all the girls wet, but when he tries to f*ck them they all say no. Because he's at the lowest level of the social pyramide, then the girl tells her girlfriends "oh, he's so hot, but I would never do that with him".

Yes, if the girl is a racist she will perceive him as having lower value.

Then you have the small geeky guy that's a millionaire. Everyone should be attracted to him, but there not. He's just too AFC, nerdy, and doesn't get girls going wet.

...which is a demonstration of LOWER VALUE because he doesn't have any social skills and is a pu$$y.


IMO attraction, and higher value are two different things, you have more mystery to read.
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Aight in that case, someone like Skip - a reagular guy with no special "high value" - he's doing it big.

Also, i don't know how social you are, but I know a couple of people that work in Dunkin Donuts and stayed back in 9th grade for three years, that get mad pvssy. One of those "pimps" almost got all belligerent in the club cuz my homie grabbed the butt of his gf. He saw me over my friend's shoulder, i was looking at his eyes like "don't even try anything dumb". So not much of a "gangsta" either. Where's his value at? lol
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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