Helped a girl cheat, now I feel like a scumbag

[narcissist]

I started taking game really seriously in august by relentlessly approaching, and with that comes a lot of pvssy thrown your way. Unfortunately sometimes some of the best pvssy is already taken. But, every so often it happens that the really good pvssy that is taken is interested in you and wants to fvck. Well this girl I approached and got her number, went on a date with me but told me she has a boyfriend. I cut her off, but after two or three weeks she hits me up and tells me she wants to come over and sends me a picture of her in sexy lingerie. I was on NoFap day 8 and so I gave in and told her to come over. I fvcked her in the shower.

I felt so much guilt after to be honest. I didnt show it, but inside it was killing me. I know the feeling when your girl cheats on you. I am making it a rule for myself not to be the guy that helps a girl cheat. I can get enough women where i can refuse sex from women that have bf's.

 

[fastlife]

Being the other guy can be a little morally ambiguous. But get things clear: it's never the other guy's fault. Never. Even if I was in a relationship with a girl I loved, if the girl cheated she'd get the boot but I might buy the other guy a beer; he saved me a lot of time/resources by showing me that my girl was low value to begin with. Now most guys pedestalize their girls so hard that they can't look at things that way and will totally blame the guy.

When I was younger I used to mostly go for girls in committed relationships--some sort of ego trip/fear of commitment. Do I blame myself for my actions then? Not particularly; but like you, I eventually felt pretty ****ty about it and I've made it a rule not to get involved with girls in relationships--but that's 100% for my benefit. I have a strong sense of noblesse oblige--I can probably do better than her; her boyfriend probably can't. But that girl would've cheated on him regardless (don't be so egotistical to think you made her cheat); and being cheated on is probably the best thing that can happen to a guy for his self-development.

 

[narcissist]

Being the other guy can be a little morally ambiguous. But get things clear: it's never the other guy's fault. Never. Even if I was in a relationship with a girl I loved, if the girl cheated she'd get the boot but I might buy the other guy a beer; he saved me a lot of time/resources by showing me that my girl was low value to begin with. Now most guys pedestalize their girls so hard that they can't look at things that way and will totally blame the guy.

When I was younger I used to mostly go for girls in committed relationships--some sort of ego trip/fear of commitment. Do I blame myself for my actions then? Not particularly; but like you, I eventually felt pretty ****ty about it and I've made it a rule not to get involved with girls in relationships--but that's 100% for my benefit. I have a strong sense of noblesse oblige--I can probably do better than her; her boyfriend probably can't. But that girl would've cheated on him regardless (don't be so egotistical to think you made her cheat); and being cheated on is probably the best thing that can happen to a guy for his self-development.

I tend to agree with everything you've said, but I don't want to fall into the trap of shedding all my responsibility, for i still contributed to the action regardless, and I used my above average gaming/seductive abilities to influence her action (even if I didn't completely and entirely influence her actions to cheat, I still did to a certain extent, and her decision to cheat was still partially caused by who I am). And for that reason I think that my actions were sh*tty.

But yeah, I catch your drift. She would have done it anyways. But from here on out, I simply don't want to be the guy that they use for their cheating purposes. It just doesn't make me feel good.

 

[marmel75]

So what? You banged her. You didn't make her do it, she chose to do it.

It's not your job to police women's morality.

 

[Tictac]

Maybe it's rationalization - I never gave much thought to not banging a chick with a boyfriend. Most likely, I did a number of women with them and never knew. Or if they said 'I have a boyfriend', I didn't care or pay attention.

Married women are another story, for me anyway, I've had plenty of chances. But I don't/won't 'go there', especially if there are kids involved. Too much collateral damage.

If it makes you feel bad, don't do it. Life's too short and p*ssy too plentiful to ever feel bad about one piece.

 

[Poon King]

Look.. you are not responsible for the relationships of grown adult women. If SHE doesn't respect her relationship, neither should you. Nore should you respect her. But you don't have to respect a woman to f*ck her.

You're stressing over bullsh!t. I think its hilarious when men WIN the game.. then suck all the pleasure out of it by feeling guilty because some dumb skank did something SHE WAS GOING TO DO ANYWAY. If it wasn't your d!ck it would of been someone else's. Maybe mine. Who cares?

 

[NSX-R]

If she was married with children , then you are a big @$$hole . Since she wasn't something like this , the fault is mainly hers and not yours. She came into your house and she wanted this to happen. Remember,chicks choose if they want you to fck them and not you.

 

[mental blockstack]

If she was a ****ty lock, not your fault

If she was a strong lock and you were a stronger key, your fault

 

[JohnChops]

the way I see it , she was going to cheat on her BF anyway. So, why not just get a free **** out of it? Relationships don't mean much anymore, don't feel so guilty.

 

[Desdinova]

You're stressing over bullsh!t. I think its hilarious when men WIN the game.. then suck all the pleasure out of it by feeling guilty because some dumb skank did something SHE WAS GOING TO DO ANYWAY. If it wasn't your d!ck it would of been someone else's. Maybe mine. Who cares?

Yup, couldn't have said it better myself.

The only thing I'm going to object to is that cheating makes the woman more low quality. It has little to do with quality of the woman. It has to do with the quality of her bf/fiancee/husband. A woman is going to feel justified for fvcking a higher quality man, and she will make up all kinds of reasons for doing so. She will feel little to no guilt for fvcking a man who's better than the one she's "committed" to.

 

[AttackFormation]

Yup, couldn't have said it better myself.

The only thing I'm going to object to is that cheating makes the woman more low quality. It has little to do with quality of the woman. It has to do with the quality of her bf/fiancee/husband. A woman is going to feel justified for fvcking a higher quality man, and she will make up all kinds of reasons for doing so. She will feel little to no guilt for fvcking a man who's better than the one she's "committed" to.

That's one perspective, but there's also the fact that there are women who get off on cheating and that her personality (quality) determines how quickly and to what degree she gets bored of the relationship.

 

[Desdinova]

there's also the fact that there are women who get off on cheating and that her personality (quality) determines how quickly and to what degree she gets bored of the relationship.

I don't think women "get off" on cheating. They "get off" on the emotions they experience both with the cheating and the experience of being with a better man. This doesn't apply to just "low quality" women, this applies to ALL women. Some have a higher threshold when it comes to being satisfied with the amount of emotional fluctuation they experience.

The only way I can deem a woman "low quality" with regards to this subject is to apply it to women who actually enjoy fvcking multiple men and have sex solely for personal gain. However, these women generally don't get involved in relationships unless they're leading the man on for material, personal and financial benefit.

 

[fastlife]

I take it you've never dated a Cluster B...they cheat with anything that moves and its for its own sake.

And they get off on cuckolding a man who they perceive as being higher value than they are. They don't feel elevated by being around a man of higher value (at least past the honeymoon)--but see that value as a direct threat to their own/confirmation of their own low value. It's always a matter of competition with them.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

And they get off on cuckolding a man who they perceive as being higher value than they are. They don't feel elevated by being around a man of higher value (at least past the honeymoon)--but see that value as a direct threat to their own/confirmation of their own low value. It's always a matter of competition with them.

These types cheat to win. Its almost always with a lower quality dude. Its done for power and elevation. I dont understand how people think the guy she cheated with must be better.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I take it you've never dated a Cluster B...they cheat with anything that moves and its for its own sake.

They cheat to "beat" you. They have a ton of bs tactics to win.

 

[Reykhel]

This is stupid....but let's examine it

Usually you only have guilt when there is a conflict between your actions
and your beliefs

So in order not to feel guilt you either have to change your actions or your
beliefs.

In this case, you really need to change your beliefs. Your mindset is all wrong. If that biatch didn't
"cheat" with you, she would have cheated with someone else. If she was getting what she
needed from her boyfriend then maybe....but then again...maybe not

A biatch is a biatch...

 

[mrgoodstuff]

This is stupid....but let's examine it

Usually you only have guilt when there is a conflict between your actions
and your beliefs

So in order not to feel guilt you either have to change your actions or your
beliefs.

In this case, you really need to change your beliefs. Your mindset is all wrong. If that biatch didn't
"cheat" with you, she would have cheated with someone else. If she was getting what she
needed from her boyfriend then maybe....but then again...maybe not

A biatch is a biatch...

Many are dirty slimey dogs and just cheat because they can. It doesn't matter if she's getting what she needs from her man, she will still cheat him. In the end most of it is to fluff up her ego and entertain her girlfriends who are doing similar things or egging her on to do these things. In my opinion most of time it's done to have stories to tell the peer group who do the same things. Hoez hang with other hoez.

 

[Igetit!]

Usually you only have guilt when there is a conflict between your actions
and your beliefs

So in order not to feel guilt you either have to change your actions or your
beliefs.]

Bam......I like that.