Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Die Hard said:Thanx for the support and advice, typical and zekko!
EDIT: Hanging on the phone with her right now. If you're interested, I'll give you guys an update later tonight or tomorrow.
Hey Zekko - surely you wouldn't agree that the opposite of 'msytery', i,e blabbering your whole life story to a chick, is the way to go?zekko said:I've always thought the whole idea of retaining mystery is complete and utter BS. Yeah, if you're looking for a quick one night stand, then it's better to let her fill in the lines with her own imagination. That way she can pretend you're whatever fantasy she wants you to be. But if you see the girl as a potential LTR, then you're going to get to know each other anyway. You can't keep what you do for a living or whether or not you have pets from her forever.
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I'm not sure why anyone would want to do that.Zunder said:Hey Zekko - surely you wouldn't agree that the opposite of 'msytery', i,e blabbering your whole life story to a chick, is the way to go?
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Agreed. But if you have enough control over the conversation you can steer it away from those questions even being asked in the first place.zekko said:I'm not sure why anyone would want to do that.
But I think the pickup idea of never answering a girl's questions - always give an evasive C&F remark instead - is just asinine.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
And doesn't even want her to know where he lives. I'm confused.Sue Madre said:You are raving about how much you like this girl so why are you looking for excuses NOT to bring her to your place?
I'm having trouble at that. She's rapidly invading my life and my heart, which is actually connected... Allowing her to come over to my place = allowing her deeper into my life = allowing her deeper into my heart. Perhaps I'm weird, perhaps I have issues, I don't care! This is the way it works for me, period.Slickster said:Nothing wrong with getting excited about a cool chick. Consider yourself lucky for finding someone you click with. Those emotions you are feeling are great as long as you are aware and keep yourself in check.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I was going to say that.iqqi said:The only real red flag here is coming from you: what the F is up with your living situation? I've never met a mature, grown man above the age of 24 who had an issue with bringing home a chick.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.