"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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HELP guys: after having scheduled a date, I got this message! shall i repspond anything? is there any way to answer that? Or shall I just go NC forever? HELP!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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@Scott: I like that reply! Unfortunately we've been on high and lows for 7 months right now, we made out, we had sex she went cold and hot, I even suspect that there's someone else... and she know (and she's sure unfortunately) that I don't want to be friend to her... any alternative to NC?
 
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I think she's rejecting as she might have another date... but obviuosly she won't say that..
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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joker79 said:
I think she's rejecting as she might have another date... but obviuosly she won't say that..
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Quite correct.

Two choices...

1. Take the high road and go no contact. Walk away and let it go. (Preferred option)

2. If she's not in your social circle, get your last parting shot in and then go NC.

"So getting married is out if the question?"

Or

"No problem. We can just chill at my place."
 
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yeah I would cut everything off, probably a last shot won't give me any result as she was quite direct. I wouldn't say something like that if was interested in someone... It's funny because not later than 5 days ago we agreed (this agreement just got wiped out) and she was the one sending messages with kisses and asking my availability...
 
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joker79 said:
yeah I would cut everything off, probably a last shot won't give me any result as she was quite direct. I wouldn't say something like that if was interested in someone... It's funny because not later than 5 days ago we agreed (this agreement just got wiped out) and she was the one sending messages with kisses and asking my availability...
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Yeah just let it go. There may well be another dude involved. Nothing you can do. She's gonna advance to the next position on the cawk carusel.
 
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i'd be nonchalant and respond with something like "ok".

Remember: 1)one-itis makes you obssessive and lose "frame"/ "inner-game"
2) being indifferent to her alleged uninterest in you will arouse at least a bit of interest from her
 
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It's a done deal, you might as well fück with her lol.

Examples:

-"I'm getting mixed signals, what do you mean?"
-"But I already bought a box of condoms!"
-"Is your sister/mom single?"
-"But I shaved my nuts for you!"
-"Is this because my dıck's too big for you undersized vagina?"
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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if you are worth a hoot, it's HER loss. If you are not worth a hoot,, good deal for society that she dumped you, instead of having kids by you.
 
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Eventually i didn't answer, this situation happened already in the past and i couldn't sort anything out. I'm kind of pissed of as she manipulated me but at leader i know what to do now.
 
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joker79 said:
HELP guys: after having scheduled a date, I got this message! shall i repspond anything? is there any way to answer that? Or shall I just go NC forever? HELP!
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Something seems kinda odd about this....like there's something you're leaving out.


You said that AFTER you had a date scheduled,she texted you saying she wasn't going to do a date with you.


You said you had a date scheduled. So BOTH OF YOU made date plans together? You brought it up,she agreed,then AFTER SHE AGREED to the date,she sends a text saying she's not gonna have a date with you?


I know women do some crazy,illogical things at times,but something's OFF. Don't know how much time passed between you two scheduling the date,then her sending you this text,but SOMETHING must have happened.


Reading this makes me feel like I walked in on a movie an hour after it started,and now I'm trying to figure out what's all going on.



Most chicks play games and beat around the bush. This girl was straight up DIRECT.....TOO DIRECT for it to be a simply loss of interest.
Something must have happened somewhere.
 
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Yes, something happened, i don't know what, i strongly think it's another dude. We've been far from each other just for easter (4-5 days) and i got txt from her asking when i would be back, kisses, etc, etc. Now she refuses to have a date but i won't ask why. Completely inconsistent behaviour, mixed messages, and now this "i'm not doing a date" txt. Imo she's going to have another date on saturday and wants to keep me in the backburner. Before easter i clearly state that i think she's playing games and i'm not a part of this game... But obviously she denied. I don't see any alternative to walk away with my dignity
 
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If you get the feeling that your princess is in another castle, she usually is. It's a lost cause, might as well fuk with her.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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UPDATE, i met her during drinks and we faced the thing, I didn't want to but it happened. I was really relaxed and she was (i think) a little bit unconfortable. After the discussion she sent me this text (cut and paste):

"I'm sorry for the confusion and I think you're an amzing person to be with but the truth is that i'm still not over my ex so I'm not in a position to move on. I always loved you and me together and i really wish we could be friends but I understand if you can't. If you want to talk I'm here but if not then I get it"

So it's clearly a LJBF; anyway I refused politely during the discussion following Rollo's strategy ("I wish I could but I thought we meant more to each other and honestly I'm looking for something more. I guess I was wrong about you") but I haven't answered anything yet.

Do you have any suggestion on how to reply efficiently? or not answering anything?
 
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if you still got feelings for her you just cant be friends. if it will bother you that she will tell you she's banging another dude then you just cant be friends. unless you can be friends with her without wanting something more then stay friends with her. if not, let her go.
 
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At this point I would play it off (if it's not too late) and be friends with her.

I had the exact same thing happen to me a few years back.

The other dude lived out of state, so I turned the tables, stayed friends with her and was the standby.

I got FWB sex from her for nearly a year, every couple of weeks.
Eventually I got bored with her and went on to someone new.

It's generally a good idea NOT to get all mushy with a girl if you know she
isn't committed to you. Then you get nothing.
 
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I find its best to never use the word "date" when asking a girl out...lets chill, hang out, get drinks etc etc
 
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