"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Help with girl recontacting after AFC behavior

pancakepalace

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Hi guys,

Quick rundown. I'm in my early 40s. Used to have a tight game. Got married in my early 30s, then divorced after being sick for 4 years. Since 1 year feeling better.

A girl I once knew when I lived in another country called out of the blue and came to visit my city for few days. We were just friends back when I knew her. I was married then and she had a bf. We played in a music group together. I knew her so-so, not super good, but pretty good. She's really hot, and we have many things in common. Some red flags. She is depressed. Had abusive boyfriends in the past.

We hung out 3 weeks ago for a about a week. My game was not tight at all. Had not dated for a while due to being married and sick. Did some AFC moves. Although, I also did some good stuff, like pass a few **** tests. It was strange when I tried to escalate because we had always been friends. A few things happened, but she was reticent. Although, mid way through she invited me to spend the month of july with her in another country. (we both work from home and can relocate at any time). I'm also going to another country next fall for 6 months and she hinted she might want to come. Then, I got too excited and went AFC. The last few days her interest dipped and she no longer talked about the trips. I was just too eager and needy.

She left, and for a week, nothing. Then I send a short text saying she should come with me to that country in fall. She answered saying she might, but not sure.

At that point I scratched it out. Realized I had oneitis. Realized my stupid AFC ways, and decided to use it as a trigger to start dating again. Been getting in shape, reading sosuave, etc... Approached a few girls. Got one date lined up.

Another week passed, and today she messaged me asking about a specific piece of information about something during the time we were together. Something she could easily find out on her own. This was her first initiated contact since she left.

I want to reframe. For the sake of practice. To be like before. I'm wondering how to reply. I'm thinking just to the point and nothing more. Answer her question that's it. Her birthday is also coming up, but I'm thinking of ignoring this. She's been liking my FB posts and posted some photos of us together during her visit. I don't think anything will come out of this, but at least I want to play it as tight as possible from here. I'm really pissed I went AFC. No more.

Do you have any advice?
 
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For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

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The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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BetterCallSaul

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Sounds like you dont have a regular rotation of women so you can blow your load on their tits. I suggest fixing that problem first.
 

pancakepalace

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Right. Was not dating before she came along. She rekindled my want to date. So, I have been approaching women since. I have a date lined up in 2 days. But, I still want to answer her. It's not either or. I'm going to start dating others, especially since she is not here. But, I still want to respond to her and see if I can somehow get her interest up again.
 

RangerMIke

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When women reach out like that they are expecting you to do something. Try to make a date and see what happens. If she gives you any other answer than a firm yes or legitimate counter-offer, then just tell her another time, answer her question and then you are done.

I've had some women go on like this for months... the key is to never wait around for them, if they are in.... great, make dates and have fun. If not... no problem, go after other women.
 

pancakepalace

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Problem is she left my city, so I can't just ask her to meet for a date in a few days. I could relaunch her idea of me going where she will be in july, but that seems so weak. I could also relaunch the idea of her coming to where I will be in the fall, but, again, seems weak since I asked her about that last week and she gave me a maybe. I really feel like I need to let her be more specific. Her liking my posts and asking unimportant questions just to reconnect is sketchy. I'm thinking of just answering her question and leave it at that. Hopefully, she'll chase a bit more after. i have to change the frame cause i was chasing too much.
 

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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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pancakepalace

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Don't make yourself to available and just answer her question, once you are set in the new country, send her a short message to come meet you and if she goes around in circles next her right away.
Real good advice. Will do. Thanks.
 

pancakepalace

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I just learned about the concept of breadcrumbs. I guess her text meant nothing at all.
 

dustmuffin

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I just learned about the concept of breadcrumbs. I guess her text meant nothing at all.
Maybe and maybe not. If I were you I would try to set up a date at some point then escalate towards sex. It won't take much of your time just a few texts. Don't text with her constantly. It may work out and if not oh well.....moving on.
 

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I just learned about the concept of breadcrumbs. I guess her text meant nothing at all.
The thing with breadcrumbs is thats why you usually get down to business straight away, i.e ask them out.

It stops you wasting your time.
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Infern0

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I guess you didn't read my OPé


I guess you did not read my OP.
I did read your OP but clearly you still need schooling on the basics despite being on here for over a decade.

I suggest instead of asking silly questions you read the DJ bible and Book of Pook
 
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