"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Help me out with the ****y and Funny

AlexTheGreat

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Alright ... I can be really ****y and funny, but only when I'm around people that don't matter to me, as in, girls I have no interest in, or close friends.

For exemple, this girl I had absolutely no interest in, who I hadn't seen in two years. We go see a movie together, and since that moment, I just kept busting her balls. Not a moment of calm. And, I guess I was pretty good, cuz she kept laughing the whole time. We didn't have any serious conversation the whole night ... just kept laughing and laughing. At the end, SHE kissed me (on the cheek, but still).

But, when I try to approach girls that I'm actually interested in, I turn into Mr Nice Guy again. I guess that, once I start the C&F with someone, I can just build up from there, but that initial interaction cannot happen ! I just can't make fun of her so easily. And, since last week, I've slowly but surely seen her initial interest to friendzone-material .... (which isn't good AT ALL).

So, help me out ! Help me make that initial neg-hit, so I can just start cranking the machine more and more.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Best friends? NAY

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You'r problem is being C/F when you are tryign to impress someone. You don't need to impress people you arn't interested in or close friends so you just open up. You don't worry if something you say comes off as stupid or dumb. What will get you over this is when you really understand that being Mr. Nice Guy doesn't impress the chicks your interested in, being C/F WILL. It shows that you arn't desperate, needy and don't care about what they think of you.
 

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I do understand it. I've had my share of crappy experiences last year, where the nice guy killed my game. So, it's not that I don't understand how Nice Guys don't get the chicks ... it's that I just can't ignore the subconsious "What's she gonna think ?" factor ... You're probably right on that point, that, since I don't give a **** what some people think, I'll act freely around them. But, the question remains : how do I transplant this carelessness to girls that I'm interested in ?
 

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Originally posted by AlexTheGreat
I do understand it. I've had my share of crappy experiences last year, where the nice guy killed my game. So, it's not that I don't understand how Nice Guys don't get the chicks ... it's that I just can't ignore the subconsious "What's she gonna think ?" factor ... You're probably right on that point, that, since I don't give a **** what some people think, I'll act freely around them. But, the question remains : how do I transplant this carelessness to girls that I'm interested in ?
For a long time I pretended each girl I met was a very close friend of mine who I have a very relaxed relationship with.

So, during the conversation, I would think about what she said and then think to myself, "what would I say to Clare right now?"

just practice. you just need to get out there and get used to meeting new people.
 
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