"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Help? A Don Juan who needs more balance?

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What's up,

I'm in a situation where I feel like I messed up with this girl who was really good to me. I've been dating her for 6 months but I've known her longer than that....She has cooked for me...bought me little things...an overall good girl..something I'm not used to experiencing.....but to make a long story short...About a month or so ago...We had a situation...where I felt she disrepected me but she really didn't....I felt she was being rude by not immediatly thanking me for a gift I sent to her house..She thanked me several days later....Instead of addresing then, I overeacted and never called her again...She has been blowing me up ever since....and texting me but I havn't called her back....I'm just learning these principles and I was being extra hard core....Now, I feel dumb....What can I do to ressurect this dumb mess with her without looking like a goofball?
Thanks....
PS. I was thinking about calling her back...telling her I have a little something for her for Christmas and hooking up.....What do you think?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Stéphane

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You did everything perfect, she's begging for your attention. (Depends how long this been going on...) Anyways your not in the wrong here, just tell her that you were really busy with life, and stuff, and just didn't have the time to talk to her.
 

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Go and apologize. If you know you did wrong, and poorly assessed the situation, go and contact her, and let her know.
If she doesn't resopect you for being a Man, then she's not worth it anyway.

Go and be a man.
Don't get her the gift though.
Make sure you give her the gift of your sincereity, and the honor you have inside.
If she loves you, she will appreciate YOU more than any gift.
You know what to do.

In the future, LEARN not to REACT.
Learn to keep your emotions in check.
 

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where I felt she disrepected me but she really didn't

Stéphane said:
You did everything perfect, she's begging for your attention. (Depends how long this been going on...) Anyways your not in the wrong here, just tell her that you were really busy with life, and stuff, and just didn't have the time to talk to her.

WTF?????!

Dude..........

Where's krazyboy? someone tell him he's got to see this.





PS Note to self, do not go in the main forum anymore, Interceptor. Agreed?

(sigh) Agreed.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Stéphane

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Interceptor said:
WTF?????!

Dude..........

Where's krazyboy? someone tell him he's got to see this.





PS Note to self, do not go in the main forum anymore, Interceptor. Agreed?

(sigh) Agreed.
So your saying that he should apologise, and give her all the power? That he should be begging to get her back? Sorry, It's easier if the pvssy comes begging to you, instead of having you beg for pvssy. She's already begging for his attention, she keeps calling him.

Why the f*** should he apologise, and give her all the power?
 

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krazyboy99 said:
this is a prime example of what happens when you let all the sh1t you read on this site get to your head. if you were wrong and you apologize, that's not giving away any power. that's just being a decent human being.
Well, been a decent human being won't get you the girl. There tons of decent human beings we call them "nice guys", "doormats", "AFCs". There all decent human beings but do they get laid? Hell no.

You can try apologising, but people just don't take appologies good, just like compliments. She will either forgive him or she won't, he doesn't need to appologise for it.

Another option he could do is to be brutally honest with her. Just tell her the truth, and that it was a big misunderstanding, but donot appologize. You did absolutely nothing wrong, it was a misunderstanding at the most.
 

MooseGod

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Dude, just tell her the truth. Who cares if some guy on an online forum says it makes you an "AFC?"

You've got to be honest in any healthy relationship...if you ****ed up, then it's alright to apologize.
 
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