"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Height in Guys vs Body Mass in Girls

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just delete this thread...you can't change your height anyway

If you really think height matters that much then your f.ucking crazy

and I am 6 foot btw...I just have some short mates
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I'm 6'3"... I've been told I have a handsome face, not extremely handsome but still handsome. I weigh 180 pounds, I have mostly muscle and low body fat.

Still, when I'm feeling like ****... there's no way in hell I'm going to score a girl.
You can't score a girl just on your looks. It may facilitate things a lot, but no man will ever be handsome enough to score women just with his looks. It's all about the way you act for as far as I'm concerned.
 

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I-am-someone said:
I'm 6'3"... I've been told I have a handsome face, not extremely handsome but still handsome. I weigh 180 pounds, I have mostly muscle and low body fat.

Still, when I'm feeling like ****... there's no way in hell I'm going to score a girl.
You can't score a girl just on your looks. It may facilitate things a lot, but no man will ever be handsome enough to score women just with his looks. It's all about the way you act for as far as I'm concerned.
ARE YOU CRAZY??? All this BS that we talk about being alpha, being the prize, be the jerk -- who naturally has these attributes??? Attractive men who have lived the life of an attractive person their entire lives. Sure some idiot is going to list some unattractive guys that get girls, but we are dealing with society as a whole (not ur lil friends.) The better you look the more likely you are to have an attractive mate.. No one can logically deny that. Be realistic!!! I'm not saying that you HAVE to look good, but it fking helps. Can lil short fat ugly bob REALLY feel like the prize-- can he really???

The whole seduction community, at least to me, is some sort of twisted variation of female supplication. It is like we are saying byatches are so special that we need fking books and forums and daily postings about how to obtain them. We have guys that come up with methods and ebooks, just to get byatches...

Look good, be worthy and be a man.

worthy: a person that is desired (no fatties, no losers, no lil boys)
 

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It's natural selection...

Tallers guys get both the taller and the smaller chics..

Short guys get the midgets under five feet and ****..lol...you can keep them..
 

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Tha Realnezz said:
It's natural selection...

Tallers guys get both the taller and the smaller chics..

Short guys get the midgets under five feet and ****..lol...you can keep them..
Good job on resurrecting a completly useless thread.

Your advice is spot on too. Only tall guys get tall girls. :rolleyes:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Most can't..i'd like to see some short guy try to outgame me for a tall chic..I'd really like to see that..looks or no looks..it's not happening...
 

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ARE YOU CRAZY??? All this BS that we talk about being alpha, being the prize, be the jerk -- who naturally has these attributes??? Attractive men who have lived the life of an attractive person their entire lives. Sure some idiot is going to list some unattractive guys that get girls, but we are dealing with society as a whole (not ur lil friends.) The better you look the more likely you are to have an attractive mate.. No one can logically deny that. Be realistic!!! I'm not saying that you HAVE to look good, but it fking helps. Can lil short fat ugly bob REALLY feel like the prize-- can he really???
good thing this a$$hole was banned.

Seriously, guys, a woman's weight is about 75+% of her attractiveness. A fat girl just has no reason to live. A man's height, in contrast, is only a small element. Quit making excuses for why you can't get girls.

and for the record, my dad is shorter than my mom
 

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Tha Realnezz said:
It's natural selection...

Tallers guys get both the taller and the smaller chics..

Short guys get the midgets under five feet and ****..lol...you can keep them..
sounds like someone's feeling ugly so he had to bump a thread about height to make him feel better.

This thread was retarded in the first place. Just go out in the real f*cking world and you'll see guys of all heights with beautiful women. Fat chicks on the other hand have zero sexual appeal, except to guys with fat fetishes.

There are a number of male celebrities in the 5'7-5'9 range who are sex symbols (you'd be surprised at some celebrities heights). Can't say the same for female celebrities who aren't thin.
 

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ALOT of guys like thick/borderline fat chics.Especially blacks and puerto ricans..

I like thick women but over 170 is too much..
 

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yes, there are different preferences, but a woman will maximize her attraction (in the eyes of ALL men summed up) around a certain slim weight. If she gets too far above that ideal mean, hardly anyone will go after her. Likewise, if she gets too skinny, either men will start to get turned off or she'll die of anorexia, whichever happens first...

imo, girls can definitely be too skinny. Altho, one wise strategy is to marry an overly skinny girl and expect her to get fatter over time.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I don't think so. Although guys that really ARE short (like 5"3' as opposed to 5"9' - thats not really that short :rolleyes:) are more likely to settle for less better attractive girls in general, which may include overweight girls, simply because they will have less choice, cos some women refuse to date guys under a certain height.

Having said that, some women don't have height requirements, many of which are hot. My 5"5' mate is a rugby player, sprinter and well known man-hor...and he ain't even that good-looking, he's just a really cool guy and has an athletic body.

Whats with all these height threads anyway? You can't change it....except with leg lengthening, and anyone that goes through that is crazy.

edit: Just noticed this thread has been dragged up from waaaaaaay back by the realnezz. Mate, why would you type something like that? Its just reeks of insecurity and its also not really true. :rolleyes:
 

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what height would most people consider not short at the minimum? When i hear 5'8 is short, errr it bugs me because i am 5'8 barefoot. Is 5'9 the minimum height to not be considered short?
 

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Yes height matters, and taller is preferred: http://www.shortsupport.org/News/0219.thml

Who are you going to trust; some short dude that's being defensive in this thread, or a scientific study involving 3,200 male participants.

I'm not dissing on our short men here, cause i know height can't be changed. But the question came up, so I might as well point to the answer; even if it hurts.
 

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azanon said:
Yes height matters, and taller is preferred: http://www.shortsupport.org/News/0219.thml

Who are you going to trust; some short dude that's being defensive in this thread, or a scientific study involving 3,200 male participants.

I'm not dissing on our short men here, cause i know height can't be changed. But the question came up, so I might as well point to the answer; even if it hurts.
I dunno man. I'm 6"2' and speak from REAL LIFE experience, not queationaires and surveys. Yea, put 2 guys next to each other, identical in every way but one 5 and one 6 foot....obviously the taller one, but theres so much more to physical attractiveness, not to mention game. There's a forum that I sometimes visit that asks the same question, however this forum is populated by male and female students with no knowledge of PU and no axe to grind.

The results of the survey and responses from participants are something like this: 90% say height is a bonus, 97% say they wouldn't disregard a guy based on his height and 10% say they prefer shorter guys. (I know thats more than 100 but its the kind of survey where ppl just type responses)

The overwhelmingly majority say height is only an issue if the guy is insecure about it. Then there's numerous example of hot girls (with photos) with b/f's shorter than them.

Of course if you do a survey asking women, "Are tall guys more attractive than short guys?" Then the answer is gonna be yea....but in the field it so doesn't matter. You guys saying stuff like "start living in reality, stop fooling yourselves" are the ones that ACTUALLY need to start living in reality...cos you have no frickin idea what you're on about.
 

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L777 said:
I dunno man. I'm 6"2' and speak from REAL LIFE experience, not queationaires and surveys. Yea, put 2 guys next to each other, identical in every way but one 5 and one 6 foot....obviously the taller one, but theres so much more to physical attractiveness, not to mention game. ......

Of course if you do a survey asking women, "Are tall guys more attractive than short guys?" Then the answer is gonna be yea....but in the field it so doesn't matter.
You're missing the point of the discussion. We're just talking about height alone, measured against itself. Of course there are a ton of other variables that will matter in the overall picture. That goes without saying, IMO, but you can feel free to say that since you just did.

In the field, the sum total of everything matters. Some things you cant change (like height), some things you can.

Do women, in general, prefer taller men over shorter, all other things being equal? Yes. And that research supports that. Case closed. Next topic? Besdies, this is a borderline looks thread, and we know those are the spawn of Satan here!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Tha Realnezz said:
It's natural selection...

Tallers guys get both the taller and the smaller chics..

Short guys get the midgets under five feet and ****..lol...you can keep them..

Dude, you seriously reek alot of insecurities.

I know its just an internet forum, but does anyone else get bad vibes from this guy?
 

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Silverback82 said:
are you seriously arguing that being weak looking can be better than being strong looking?
There comes a point of diminishing returns. A decent musculature is usually good but once you start becoming a monster it's probably a turnoff. I get nothing but compliments on my shoulders and back as i get bigger. Of course i have no desire to become "as big as possible" though. I think a lot of women are turned off by muscular guys too because they feel inferior and would have to work extra hard on their own bodies to keep the guy.


I prefer women to be about 5'1 or 5'2. I just like them better than the taller ones.. shrug.. they're easier to manage in bed too...
 

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I know alot of chicks prefer to be with a guy taller then them do to feeling safe and secure..
 

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Height alone is a more dominant, alpha, masculine characteristic. That is the same reason why extremely tall women are considered by many people to be less attractive because of their dominant, masculine trait of height.

Can you still get laid being less than average height? Absolutely.
Is it unfair that taller people get laid more easily? Absolutely.
Is it unfair that you know about a board that specializes in seduction techniques and your friends might not? Absolutely.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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