"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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4afe

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I have a quick question on probably something really simple. I got a HBs # last week and just called her, her roomate answered the phone and said she wasnt there. I told her to tell HB that "4afe, the really cute guy from ----- called" . If HB never calls back should I just leave it at that, and move to the next HB? or try again in like a week (probably the afc way)?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ScrewIt

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maybe not a good idea what you said, almost like leaving a voicemail. Plus its' rare for girls to call back, unless their IL is skyrocket

shouldve just said "k thanks ill try again later"
 

4afe

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True. So if she doesnt call back, drop her? Not a big deal, I did learn something out of it :D .
 

diablo

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Originally posted by 4afe
True. So if she doesnt call back, drop her?
Not really. You've got no way of knowing if her roommate even remembered to give her the message. Try again, if her roommate answers and does the same routine just say you'll call back later as stated by ScrewIt - don't give out your name; she's got no way of knowing who you are. If the girl does answer, then proceed as you normally would...
 

4afe

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Diablo, if you made this kind of mistake (noob mistake) what Kind of time frame would you work in? I was thinking give it two days, the next day seems kind of needy (if she did get the message).
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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JazzPimpNYC

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"the really cute guy"

=

"Another desperate, self-important guy looking for validation"
 

4afe

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I see your point, JazzPimpNYC. I said that because when she wanted my # and told me to put it in her phone I put "Really cute guy" for name.
 

AverageFC

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there is an example of what to say when this happens in the Bible
 
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