"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Weirdest encounter ever recently.

Hooked up with very attractive 28 yr old girl last weekend. Same night lay, was superb that night. She ended up crashing in my bed. The next morning we went at it again - midway through round 2 she got on top and proceeded to cover my eyes with her hands. I pulled them off and she said "noo don't look at me." Now I'm no psychologist but wtf? This girl had a bangin' body, no reason to be self conscious. Any thoughts?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Malcontent

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Sex abuse victim/nutcase.

My ex did the same thing. She'd put her hands over my eyes too. Or sometimes a pillow which was really weird. I had forgotten about that amongst the other 100 red flags...
 

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You're over thinking this. Odds are since it was morning after a long night, she simply did not want you seeing her face with the makeup and everything else not looking on point. Not unusual for a woman you just met to think this way.
 

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All women are self-conscious. It has nothing to do with how good they look. The night before, I'm guessing it was dark while you fvcked and she'd had a drink or two.
 

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Her: "Don't look at me." Covers your eyes.

You: "Now, if you could plug my nose too, we are set!"
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Malcontent said:
Sex abuse victim/nutcase.

My ex did the same thing. She'd put her hands over my eyes too. Or sometimes a pillow which was really weird. I had forgotten about that amongst the other 100 red flags...
Lmao a pillow, she tried to do that too but I held her arms behind her back. Crazy. Probably won't see her for a while but what kind of other red flags did you notice? This one was a huge eye opener for me. The sex was good though otherwise.
 
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You're over thinking this. Odds are since it was morning after a long night, she simply did not want you seeing her face with the makeup and everything else not looking on point. Not unusual for a woman you just met to think this way.
This.

The majority of the women I've slept with have been short-term flings. Most of them were very self-conscious about their bodies. It didn't matter if they were sexy as all hell, they still acted that way.
 

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plus if she want you to not look you say, "nah, I like to watch", or just hold her hands and say nothing when still looking at her.

like others say she don't wnat you to look at her without having a pristine look on her make-up, with in anycase most would like to turn the light off, but hey since i'm a light on during it I don't care much, I will be looking and I know they like it lol
 

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I banged a girl I worked with after a night of drinking, she was a little chubby, the next day she had to get up to answer the door, she said don't look, I didn't. lol. A lot of girls are self conscious, I wouldn't worry about it.
 

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Dear Jonny,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^like he said,not a big deal.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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wanna hear something really f'd up! mine was like that til she started screwing around. Then she was confident as hell.

They are all nuts somehow! and then they say we are.
 

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JonnyD123 said:
Weirdest encounter ever recently.

Hooked up with very attractive 28 yr old girl last weekend. Same night lay, was superb that night. She ended up crashing in my bed. The next morning we went at it again - midway through round 2 she got on top and proceeded to cover my eyes with her hands. I pulled them off and she said "noo don't look at me." Now I'm no psychologist but wtf? This girl had a bangin' body, no reason to be self conscious. Any thoughts?
The case is quite the opposite. She is extremely insecure about her body. Pretty typical with hot girls. She will go thru her entire life feeling/behaving this way.
 
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