"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Lotusman

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I recently met a hottie through the net part-time lingerie model... i would say prob the hottest girl i've ever taken out...

anyway was going well drink, dinner - got trigger happy and took her to an exclusive nightclub - dropped $400.. (i really don't normally do this for women)... we had a great time got intimate etc...

anyway i txt her she txts back with no sign of a thankyou etc... i called her a couple of days later and she cuts me off!!

i'm getting the feeling she used me to have a good night out in a hot club and now she's chucked me away so i'm thinking of texting her telling her how rude she is and should acquire some manners or should i just leave it and move on? (i still would obviously like to you know what)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Pimp-sicle

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Tell me this is a troll............................:cheer:




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an xbox 360 wouldnt do that to you...lol. $400 is a bit too much for the first time out...or anytime out for that matter unless youre ballin at a casino in las vegas.
 

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wow man, thats all i gotta say.

first thing that i noticed....you said you dropped 400 WHICH YOU NORMALLY WOULDN'T DO. --> That right there made HER the prize, NOT you.

Mistake #2: DO NOT text her again. You should have NUMEROUS plates spinning at one time. By texting her saying how rude she is etc etc, your showing her that you don't have any other options and are probably acting just like all the other CHUMPS that do the same thing to her. DO NOT message her back, NEXT HER, and MAYBE just MAYBE she'll text or call you to hang out because your being different -- Your NOT chasing her.

And if that happens then guess what you've done, you have switched the frame and now YOUR in control. By doing that you just DHVed her and her attraction should go up.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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MaddXMan

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Hopefully by "got intimate" you mean you ****ed ***** or pounded ass, but I doubt it.
 

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thanks DJx420 - what you say makes sense. Yeah I just left it - tried to erase her from my mind and when i least expected it she txted apolosing for not picking up etc...

the issue i find is the hotter the women are i naturally regress into the afc mindset! so i suppose it's important to try to maintain the DJ mindset at all times and will develop more naturally as i start upping my game to the 8+ girls...

do you guys agree ? is the solution simply breaking through into that 8+ market once and it all flows from there?
 

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Im not sure what the solution is, but it certainely isnt using money to try and get "intimate" with women you rate "8" or above.
 

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man if i drop 400 i better ****ing get laid. You could have ordered very hot escorts for $400 and had a very good time.
 

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400 dollars??

You shoudl have got a couple of hookers at least you woulda got laid!!

Seriously man....you got played. Learn from it and move on.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Lotusman said:
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anyway was going well drink, dinner - got trigger happy and took her to an exclusive nightclub - dropped $400.. (i really don't normally do this for women)... we had a great time got intimate etc...

You mean you got intimate with your hand after the date?
 

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Please tell me this is a troll. Otherwise you deserve it dude.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Lotusman

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you are all right....

dropping 400 hurt esp with the credit crunch lol... i'm def not going to be doing that again esp not on the 1st meeting...

anyway she's been txting but it'll be a lot less lavish next time to truly assess her intentions also...

this whole episode reminded me how lame it is to put a woman on a pedestal...
 

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As somebody else said you really made her the prize and put her on the pedestal with the $400.

When you make somebody else the prize and out them on pedestals that means you are lower than them and have lower value. Now, why would a HB who has alot of men after her want to date a man who has lower value then her?

You probably acted AFC throughout the date too...
 

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To be fair this would have been a much smarter thing to do after say 5 or 6 regular ($20) dates. Youve failed on three major counts:
1) Demonstrated low value in yourself (buy trying to "buy" her)
2) Demonstrated the fact you're massively insecure (and trying to overcompensate)
3) Youve set unhealthy expectations for future dates (if there are any).
 
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