"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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It's like i can't even be real, I have to always be disinterested and not care or she loses interest. I have to constantly send mixed signals and shyt like that. Is this just part of the game or am I alone on this? I'm pretty sure I'm not alone on this because most of my friends with gfs don't do shyt for them and their gfs are obsessed.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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once you have a girlfriend, there is no need to play games anymore. after you start seeing a girl for a while, you don't play games.
 

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yes and no to playing games, in the sense that you have to continue to flirt with other girls, be C&F every now and then, don't pick up all her phone calls, be nice sometimes and not others.
 

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In other words, do the exact same thing that got you there in the first place, and just add a little bit of "boyfriend" stuff in there.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Remulak said:
It's like i can't even be real, I have to always be disinterested and not care or she loses interest. I have to constantly send mixed signals and shyt like that. Is this just part of the game or am I alone on this?
You're not alone man, I am on the same boat. The weird thing is my friends' gfs seem to be crazy about their bf no matter what they do; they could fart, acting goofy or whatever, their GF are just completly in love. With me, it just *doesn't* work, and I do not look worse than them, far from it. It has probably something to do with charisma though.
 

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Relax! A relationship should be enjoyable. If it's not and you seriously feel you need to keep playing games to maintain her interest, then you are better off single.
 

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It's like i can't even be real, I have to always be disinterested and not care or she loses interest. I have to constantly send mixed signals and shyt like that. Is this just part of the game or am I alone on this? I'm pretty sure I'm not alone on this because most of my friends with gfs don't do shyt for them and their gfs are obsessed.
You shouldn't be in a relationship then... If you can't be real, stay single.


-COd3r
 

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Remulak said:
It's like i can't even be real,
Mmmmm.
You either need to drop this girl and find one who is attracted to the real you or the real you needs to become the you that attracts this girl.

Know what I'm saying?

A real relationship is easy and fun and nice because you just have to be you.
It's not complicated. There is no need for strategy or games or tactics.

to reiterate:

Date girls attracted to the real you or make the real you the you that attracts the girls you wanna date.



Trust me, this makes life alot less miserable.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Well, this just shows you have low self esteem. You don't believe a girl would like you (even if its your GF) if you stop playing games and start being yourself.

Dude, imagine if you were to get married. Would you keep up this "game" stuff for the rest of your life?!?!?! I certainly hope not.

And to be honest, I don't think its congruently possible to show disinterest in a relationship because the very fact that you're her BF shows you're interested. Duh!

I agree with cod3r and Jariel: "If you can't be real, stay single."

All that "game" stuff is fake value. You gotta start giving her some REAL value.
 

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If you want to maintain the control of the relationship you're doing a good job. The one who's capable of walking away from it is the one with power. But relationships shouldnt be forced and you shouldnt be fighting yourself.

There are great relationships that work where both parties take part in their share. They are undoubtedly in their comfort zone, but you have to reach that point eventually.

If you're struggling to keep the relationship working, then you're better off being single. Especially if your gf is looking to bf upgrade the instant you lose your mystery.

It takes 2 to tango
 

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it seems like original post is on the money. you're literally "sleeping with the enemy".

the enjoyment that you get out of it is fvcking. but the head games and games in general need to continue.

the moment you drop your guard is the moment things start falling apart. they say that movies are artificial because you can see reality for free. well, same thing with relationships. we're all in it for the smoke and mirrors. we can get reality for free.

i admit i don't have a lot of experience but it seems to me that the fantasy we have of women is immature precisely because it does not take into account what a real PAIN IN THE ASS an ACTUAL RELATIONSHIP IS.

you're in it because you get SOMETHING out of it. but you don't get to fvck anytime you want (in fact, at times you have to pull back when you'd just wish she'd shut the fvck up and blow you), you have to deal with a likely mercurial personality if she's hot and it costs you in terms of time, energy, stress and money.

the immature thing is expecting the sex kitten and playboy bunny who languors in the bed in perfume and lingerie diddling and fondling herself until we get home from work.

the mature realization is that she is a human being and that means that like most real people you know, she's a fvcking pain in the a$$.

delta
 

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haha.

alright polyanna - hope your outcomes are rosy enough to merit such sentiment.

delta
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Don't get me wrong, I agree with you when you say its immature to think women will be the playboy sex kittens some of us may desire (but thats not to say these women don't exist- just one in a trillion). Women and relationships certinaly AREN'T perfect, but they certainly don't have to be a pain in the arse! Why on earth would you want a girl in the first place if they were?

"and that means that like most real people you know, she's a fvcking pain in the a$$."- Delta

I certainly don't think most people I know are a pain in the arse. It seems like you think only unhappy, pessimistic a$$holes are "real." Everyone thats happy, must be "fake." I can't change your beliefs, but I personally don't think having an "everyone's an a$$holes" mentality would make me a more joyful, enlightened person.

But then again, I'm not in a relationship just for sex. I actually LIKE my girlfriend, and I enjoy simply being with her. You don't seem to share that passion.

Lol, my outcomes right now are quite rosy- but who know? Maybe time will prove me wrong. Would be strange if I came back here a year or two later with a post "All women are b*tches." But for now, I don't see that happening.

G'luck!
 

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Soapz said:
but they certainly don't have to be a pain in the arse! Why on earth would you want a girl in the first place if they were?
to fvck. biological imperative. if marriage didn't involve sex, honestly, who in the world would get married? who in the world would bother to date? heck, if i didn't want to fvck so bad, i could concentrate on important things like getting a ps3 for fvck's sake!

for me, if it came down to it, if i could just fvck hot chicks whenever i needed, i wouldn't actually need their companionship. i've got friends and pets for other things. where the rubber meets the road, i'll deal with it so i can fvck.

i guess i'd like someone to be more to me. but i'm very much questioning the degree of intimacy there actually can be between a man and woman before each is repulsed. it is the dream of the afc that the girl friend or wife becomes also the best friends. but honestly, i don't think that there can even exist that much self disclosure. it's about putting up strategic, LOAD BEARING WALLS!

and that's the honest truth of it for me i think.

delta

p.s.1 what i mean about pain in the a$$ - reality of it is that people are fvcked up. everybody. in a more g-rated way, people are flawed. and not just in the sense that we say that and accept it as true on some philosophical level - i mean it in a very REAL, EVERYDAY, kind of way. we really are. and to the extent that we have some relationships that are ok, it means that the necessary load bearing walls are in place. if we all saw each other's psyches naked and raw without the makeup, we'd all run screaming from each other at full clip.

p.s.2 do a search here for "nightline" or "nbc"... i talk about something i saw on tv and it is an even ROSIER view of relationships if you can believe it.
 
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Well, this just shows you have low self esteem. You don't believe a girl would like you (even if its your GF) if you stop playing games and start being yourself.

Dude, imagine if you were to get married. Would you keep up this "game" stuff for the rest of your life?!?!?! I certainly hope not.

And to be honest, I don't think its congruently possible to show disinterest in a relationship because the very fact that you're her BF shows you're interested. Duh!

I agree with cod3r and Jariel: "If you can't be real, stay single."

All that "game" stuff is fake value. You gotta start giving her some REAL value.

He doesnt have low self esteem, he just knows that his girl loses interest when hes himself. If he stays with her then he has low self esteem, or the sex is that damm good lol.
 

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^ ^ It's not insecurity, its fear...

Anyway Delta, usually I enjoy your posts, but our views on relationships are completely different, people only get in relationships for sex?? Why would a LTR be a premise for sex ?? I'm sure you and many other people here and out in the world can have plenty of sex without getting involved in a LTR... I certaiinly had no problem getting sex when I was single...

People seek relationships because its human to want to share and grow emotionally with a person of the opposite sex. You said it yourself you have no experience in the field, so really your opinions are equivalent to trash (no offense). I've been in enough bad ones and one very good one (current) that I can properly say you are very mistaken...

LTR - pain in the arse ?? That's just ridiculous, if that's the case get out !


-Cod3r
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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