"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Having a bit of a problem with a girl..

hfxchef

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Hey guys.

Alright, so I've known this girl for about 1 and a half months. I met her in my culinary class, and I was extremely attracted to her. She's different - she tends to hang out with more guys then girls - something that bugs me in a way, but her personality is what truly shines.

Anyways, her and I flirt quite a bit - at least I think it's flirting. She'll turn around in class and smile at me, she'll punch me (playfully), etc.

So I'm getting all of these signs that she's liking me - and she just recently dumped her boyfriend, so I guess I'm all set. Unfortunately, this is not the case, and it's most likely my fault. I asked her if she wanted to go out, and she said yes, so we planned the date for Friday night. Friday comes along and she then tells me that she has to babysit her brother, so we cancel the date. I ask her if she wants to hang out on Sunday instead.. she says no, she can't. I'm starting to get the feeling that she's not interested - or maybe she's truly busy.

So I ask her what's going on - and she explained it all to me. She's scared to lose her current friends, so she hangs out with them instead (BULL****!)

This is the challenge, guys. She's my culinary partner (we were paired up in class) and (get a load of this), we work together!

I think I'm doing everything right, with the exception of a couple of things:

1.) I need to stop calling her. I call her once a day, and we just chat. That's not good because I'm going to end up being her friend (I'm well already going down that road). Hell, after work she said to me, "So when are you going to call me, since you've called me everyday.. or will you not call me today? (what the hell does that translate to?)

2.) I'm asking her to hang out too much..

Also, she said this to me today at work.. she said that I was "hard to figure out," and that she can figure "most" guys out. I asked her if this was a bad or a good thing.. she says it's a good thing for me. Uhhh.. ok?

Any tips you guys can give me? Thanks. :D
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Alphathree

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" I'm doing everything right"

That's an interesting use of the terms 'everything' and 'right'. You might want to replace the former with 'nothing' or perhaps the latter with 'wrong', but don't replace both.

Look, you're a dork and you need to fix that. You:

- are too available, which communicates low status
- call too often, which communicates low status
- failed her tests by placing her value above yours, communicating low status
- will not succeed with this girl in the long term, even if you somehow luck out in the short term, because you have no clue what you're doing

AND

- women are not attracted to low status males
- the above points have proven to her that you are a low status male

THEREFORE

- I suggest that you forget about this girl and start reading posts by, say, Pook, or go to DoubleYourDating.Com, or MysteryMethod.com, or Real Social Dynamics, or WHEREVER, and undorkify yourself.

Good luck.

P.S. Who said attraction wasn't logical!?
 

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Alright, so I just have to back off of her totally?

It's hard, though. We're paired up together and we work in the same place.

I'm not a dork, just extremely unexperienced with females.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Alphathree

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Originally posted by hfxchef
I'm not a dork, just extremely unexperienced with females.
Excuse me while I go laugh my rear end off.

EDIT: Don't "back off her completely", just treat her like you'd treat one of your guy friends. If you did that from the start you'd be better off anyway. Anyway, start doing this but otherwise forget about her and find other girls. If you somehow magically find your balls in the mean time, she'll let you know when she notices.
 
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