"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Have you ever been LJBF'ed and turned it around?

RogueWarrior

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I see a lot of people here saying that if a woman wants to LJBF you, you shouldn't take it and say stuff like "No thanks, I have enough friends." or something similar.

Has standing up for want you want and stating that clearly to her ever gotten you out of the friendzone? Assuming of course that you cut contact or keep it strictly business (if you're in that situation).

I have to say for the record that a couple of girls I had crushes on in high-school who LJBF'ed me I ended up fooling around with a few years later but that was high-school, not the real world.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Yes.

I got LJBFed this one time.

I admit I had given my power up to her. She'd been ****ing me around for a few months.

Eventually I had enough. I was just programmed wrong, I was never a total *****.

When I told her I was sick of the way she was acting she LJBFed.

When she said those most evil words I said, "I couldn't agree more. See ya round."

She was stunned, clearly not expecting me to be completely and utterly unheartbroken.

About three hours later she was moaning as she rubbed a huge load of my jizz into her titties.

It aint over til its over boyz!

The problem is that we usually get LJBFed for being wimps and when they crush our hearts we act even more like wimps.

Treat a LJBF as a **** test and rise above it.



JJ
 

xdreamz

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i got the "i have a boyfriend" AND the "let's just be friends" on the same day,

turned it around faster than you can think i didn't even think i was going to do it it just occured to me to just live fast and grab your balls...
 

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I've gotten LJBF'd (without verbally saying it) a lot. The funny part is these same girls keep coming back, as if to check up on me, waiting for me to change the big flaws I have.


Now all I gotta do is understand what those flaws are.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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benjiprice

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I've turned it around twice, but some important notes:

1. If it's a case where you've gone from alpha to AFC it's going to be a lot easier to recover that if you were always AFC, because you won't seem incongruent. Girls will pick that up before you even open your mouth.
2. You have to move on at all the levels you can. This moving on is attractive to her, but remember you have to do it for yourself. If she reengages that's just a bonus.
3. Make sure she's aware that you're having fun and couldn't give a damn if you're not together.
4. *Never* act just as her friend or guy desperate to get back together. That means:
- Don't buy her stuff.
- Don't do silly little favors for her.
- Don't become her shrink.
- Don't stop physical contact (though you can't kiss or have sex, you can still touch her in *safe* ways).

That said, it's always a lot better to start from fresh with someone else. You have no bad experiences to crush and you'll have more fun with someone new. Trying to recover and LJBF can lead to obsession and even more pain if you don't get her back.
 

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I have turned it around a few times.

Both times the girl said let's just be friends I simply said, "Thanks, but I already have enough friends. Nice getting to know you, and maybe I'll see you around." Then I left. Within a week I was railing both girls I did that with.

It's a pretty tricky line to pull off and you have to be in the right position to do it though, but it really can work if you've played your cards right up until that point.
 
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