"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Have you ever been LJBF'ed and turned it around?

RogueWarrior

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I see a lot of people here saying that if a woman wants to LJBF you, you shouldn't take it and say stuff like "No thanks, I have enough friends." or something similar.

Has standing up for want you want and stating that clearly to her ever gotten you out of the friendzone? Assuming of course that you cut contact or keep it strictly business (if you're in that situation).

I have to say for the record that a couple of girls I had crushes on in high-school who LJBF'ed me I ended up fooling around with a few years later but that was high-school, not the real world.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Jay Jay

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Yes.

I got LJBFed this one time.

I admit I had given my power up to her. She'd been ****ing me around for a few months.

Eventually I had enough. I was just programmed wrong, I was never a total *****.

When I told her I was sick of the way she was acting she LJBFed.

When she said those most evil words I said, "I couldn't agree more. See ya round."

She was stunned, clearly not expecting me to be completely and utterly unheartbroken.

About three hours later she was moaning as she rubbed a huge load of my jizz into her titties.

It aint over til its over boyz!

The problem is that we usually get LJBFed for being wimps and when they crush our hearts we act even more like wimps.

Treat a LJBF as a **** test and rise above it.



JJ
 

xdreamz

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i got the "i have a boyfriend" AND the "let's just be friends" on the same day,

turned it around faster than you can think i didn't even think i was going to do it it just occured to me to just live fast and grab your balls...
 

Jon55

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I've gotten LJBF'd (without verbally saying it) a lot. The funny part is these same girls keep coming back, as if to check up on me, waiting for me to change the big flaws I have.


Now all I gotta do is understand what those flaws are.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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benjiprice

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I've turned it around twice, but some important notes:

1. If it's a case where you've gone from alpha to AFC it's going to be a lot easier to recover that if you were always AFC, because you won't seem incongruent. Girls will pick that up before you even open your mouth.
2. You have to move on at all the levels you can. This moving on is attractive to her, but remember you have to do it for yourself. If she reengages that's just a bonus.
3. Make sure she's aware that you're having fun and couldn't give a damn if you're not together.
4. *Never* act just as her friend or guy desperate to get back together. That means:
- Don't buy her stuff.
- Don't do silly little favors for her.
- Don't become her shrink.
- Don't stop physical contact (though you can't kiss or have sex, you can still touch her in *safe* ways).

That said, it's always a lot better to start from fresh with someone else. You have no bad experiences to crush and you'll have more fun with someone new. Trying to recover and LJBF can lead to obsession and even more pain if you don't get her back.
 

Suicide

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I have turned it around a few times.

Both times the girl said let's just be friends I simply said, "Thanks, but I already have enough friends. Nice getting to know you, and maybe I'll see you around." Then I left. Within a week I was railing both girls I did that with.

It's a pretty tricky line to pull off and you have to be in the right position to do it though, but it really can work if you've played your cards right up until that point.
 
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