Have you ever been accused of being to alpha?

[spiegel549]

What's happening boys? Been a while but I wanted to get some second opinions. Been reflecting a lot recently on my dating mindset.

Starting to see a pattern over the past few months that women (especially where I live in Los Angeles) get easily turned away by me being "overly alpha." L.A. girls are nortorious for being flakey, and giving the old "I'll let you know!" response and beating around the bush instead of giving a solid yes/no answer. I am originally from New York and am very straight forward, blunt, and speak my mind.

I see my buddies who live out here dating really attractive solid women, but I notice they are more relaxed about things, and more beta with the way I would see myself handling things. Turning almost 30 I wanted to find me a solid everyday plate to date (while still spinning of course) but I am noticing my outspoken, blunt attitude is starting to put a damper on my dating.

It is who I am. It is hard to change, and I don't mean I am outspoken in a rude douche bag way either. I just mean that if I get wishy washy responses I call them out and request a more straight forward answer. Where as my boys born and raised out here take those responses like its no big deal lol.

What do you guys think?

 

[Reservoir Dog]

Yes. To which I totally agree and own up to. It is nothing to be ashamed of. More often than not the 'accusation' is an attempt to break your frame. Good luck with that I say.

 

[Stugots26]

Do not deviate. The right woman, with high enough interest level, and who is right in the head, will not straddle the fence about committing to spending time with you.

It may look well and good from the outside that these other guys are acting more beta and pulling hot women, but you have no idea what the dynamic is between them when no one is looking. Dollars to donuts, the women are walking all over these guys and not being sweet, loving, or giving like you'd want a woman to be.

 

[RangerMIke]

All the time.

I had a woman at a party just last week come up to me and say "You must think you're hot sh1t, best man in the room!", and she was ticked off at me. I had only met her once before and had no idea why she had a burr up her butt, but she was definately looking to start something.

She did this when I was talking to a woman that I had known for awhile. I looked at her with all seriousness in my face and said, "I don't think I'm not sh!t, I know I am."

Then she went off on some tirade about how I stand and how I act, and how I'm always hitting on women. I just stood there and stared at her, and when she finished I said. "Yes, all true, and what's your point?" She just stormed off. The rest of the night people kept coming up to me and asking what was her problem. For the life of me I have no idea.

What I really think is funny is when some "White Knight" confronts me. This happened last time a at a Chamber of Commerce mixer. I was hitting up this women, and she went to 'powder her nose', and this tool came up to me and started chewing me out that the woman I was talking to was a 'nice girl' and I had a bad reputation. I told him not to worry, that nothing was going to happen that she doesn't want to happen. That sent him off the deep end and starting getting in my face. When she came back I excused myself from her gave her my number and told her to call when "Sh!t for Brains" wasn't around.

She texted me back that night and we have a date for next weekend.

 

[Tictac]

I am nobody's "maybe".

Ever.

 

[Konada]

Well I had a girl break a date with me because I was being 'standoffish' in my replies. I think the main issue is finding out whether there's an inherent problem in yourself that you are not seeing or just another 'maybe' girl.

Though I have to agree high interest women don't confuse you, you just have to walk through their doors and not close it in your own face.

 

[guru1000]

The Manosphere sprouts the Alpha mantra as if it is the golden ticket to puzzy. This is the furthest from the truth. If I were to alpha every girl I met, I would have lost more than half my lays. Especially the superhot women that were usually outalpha'ed and burned already by the cream of the crop men.

If the girl NEEDS alpha, give her alpha.
If the girl NEEDS beta, give her beta.
If the girl NEEDS a father figure, be her father.
If the girl NEEDS LOVE, give her love.
ETC.

Pay attention to the audience. One size does not fit all. Be like water: formless, shapeless; assuming only the form the prospect NEEDS.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I think so...I had a situation in one of my field reports that I likely over-Alpha'd the woman and didn't properly do enough "beta" things in date to balance them out so I had to kind of save it post date by doing a few beta things like telling her I was really thinking about you, etc, etc...seemed to work ok since I have a second date with her tomorrow but I should have done better in date versus post date once I recognized it

 

[Konada]

The Manosphere sprouts the Alpha mantra as if it is the golden ticket to puzzy. This is the furthest from the truth. If I were to alpha every girl I met, I would have lost more than half my lays. Especially the superhot women that were usually outalpha'ed and burned already by the cream of the crop men.

If the girl NEEDS alpha, give her alpha.
If the girl NEEDS beta, give her beta.
If the girl NEEDS a father figure, be her father.
If the girl NEEDS LOVE, give her love.
ETC.

Pay attention to the audience. One size does not fit all. Be like water: formless, shapeless; assuming only the form the prospect NEEDS.

So if a woman wants beta and you give her beta. What's there to stop her from climbing over your head unless you walk away?

 

[Stugots26]

The Manosphere sprouts the Alpha mantra as if it is the golden ticket to puzzy. This is the furthest from the truth. If I were to alpha every girl I met, I would have lost more than half my lays. Especially the superhot women that were usually outalpha'ed and burned already by the cream of the crop men.

If the girl NEEDS alpha, give her alpha.
If the girl NEEDS beta, give her beta.
If the girl NEEDS a father figure, be her father.
If the girl NEEDS LOVE, give her love.
ETC.

Pay attention to the audience. One size does not fit all. Be like water: formless, shapeless; assuming only the form the prospect NEEDS.

This is one of the most pathetically supplicating things I've ever read on here. I'm not changing what I offer based on what some maladjusted woman might need. If she's been burned to the point that she wants to make massive misandric generalizations about men, thanks, but no thanks. If she's got daddy issues, get what you need and broom her fast.

Women are not your audience that you have to cater to or entertain. She should be giving, and if she's purposely holding back or playing by manipulative rules, hit the eject button and move on.

 

[TheGambino]

f8ck them good, like a beast that's all they crave forrrrrrrr wazaaaaaah

 

[guru1000]

This is one of the most pathetically supplicating things I've ever read on here. I'm not changing what I offer based on what some maladjusted woman might need. If she's been burned to the point that she wants to make massive misandric generalizations about men, thanks, but no thanks. If she's got daddy issues, get what you need and broom her fast.

Women are not your audience that you have to cater to or entertain. She should be giving, and if she's purposely holding back or playing by manipulative rules, hit the eject button and move on.

Stugots, you sound like a grown baby.

If I can't fvck her, then fvck her

You came to fvck her. THEN fvck her. GET THE JOB DONE!

If your game is not fluid; you're still learning.

 

[Alvafe]

The Manosphere sprouts the Alpha mantra as if it is the golden ticket to puzzy. This is the furthest from the truth. If I were to alpha every girl I met, I would have lost more than half my lays. Especially the superhot women that were usually outalpha'ed and burned already by the cream of the crop men.

If the girl NEEDS alpha, give her alpha.
If the girl NEEDS beta, give her beta.
If the girl NEEDS a father figure, be her father.
If the girl NEEDS LOVE, give her love.
ETC.

Pay attention to the audience. One size does not fit all. Be like water: formless, shapeless; assuming only the form the prospect NEEDS.

sure tunning to pull the girl is ok and sometimes need to be done, but I think the most important part is it will be worth? will it be worth to change yourself just a girl so you can bag her? are you so lacking in options you need to please woman to bag her? hey if you are on that time you want numbers, fine go ahead, just hope you don't make that a rule for everyone.

 

[Stugots26]

Not quite. I have my terms. If a woman's got daddy issues, been burned and can't separate the future from the past, and is otherwise screwed up, I'm not wasting my time bending myself into a pretzel to get the lay.

If a woman is attracted to you enough, it won't matter what you give her. She'll fvck you anyway.

 

[guru1000]

Are you guys trying to get married or to fvck? LOL

Standards are supposed to serve to enfranchise you, not incarcerate you.

By being fluid, you are not supplicating. You are not changing who you are. They are EMPTY, MEANINGLESS words. If you have an ethics issue, that I understand; but then I could counter, are you not providing her with a service by fvcking her?

Come on guys. Don't let your standards preclude the goal (which is to fvck). Perhaps, incorporate "fluidity" as your new standard so that you don't feel so violated. :crackup: