"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Have my first date tonight...

ultra dj

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Well, I have my first "coffee date" tonite...

She's a cool girl...MEGA HOT!!! An easy 9.5...

Obviously I'm not going treat her and differently than any other girl, but I haven't been on an actual "date" before...

How long should i keep it? I spoke to her for 1 1/2 hours on the phone yesterday, so i'm kinda scared we'll have nothing to talk about now...

Any ideas of what NOT to talk about?

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Big Pappy

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If you were running your trap for an hour and a half, I think it's safe to say that you like to talk. You'll have no problems talking at all. Your problem may be when to shut up and listen.

Some folks on this site will tell you that the phone is for making a plan, not catching up on the days events and expressing opinions, etc.

The reason for this is because it's real easy to for a girl to really like talking to you without all the catty flavor she gets from her girlfriends. Next thing you know, you might end up in the friend zone.

A coffee date. My, how exciting. How fun you must be. Take her somewhere that other men would not. Take her for a Go-Kart ride. Take her to play Air Hockey.

Do something fun that will keep you both moving and keep you from running your mouth. (Or hers!)

This way, she will find that she had fun, but she is still curious about what kind of guy you are, what you like, etc.

At least you're out there, though! Good Luck.
 

Avsguy01

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1. Phone calls- step up dates
2.Action dates work best, but theres never anything wrong with a causual coffee, movie date.....etc....
3. Try to bring up open conversations that she can respond to. That way she can do most of the talking and you just listen while expanding on her responses.
4. Slight kino
5. End of date, saying you had a good time is good enough. Either say youd like to go out another time or save that for a phone call about 1-3 days later to set up another date. No more than 15 mins conversations on the phone when you are first meeting and getting to know a woman.
 

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Boo @ talkin for 90 minutes on the phone...

You ain't here to talk to this girl... you here for her to be leanin over you touchin you, thinkin you look good, but that you're also entertainin and can maintain a convo.. keep the sexual aura in there, which you ain't gonna do with a first convo on the phone

You've just met her, and you ain't interested in what she's got to say... SURELY!!!???

The people you really want to hear are friends are those you've been with for more than a minute...

Now you ain't at a loss YET unless you've burnt out all your convo topics on the phone... just in future keep the phone convos to a minimum and the sexual contact to a max if you're lookin to get some
 

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I'd like to add my opinion on the whole phone call thing. I agree that the first few conversations with a girl your hanging out with should be short and to the point. Pretty much call her up, fluff talk for a minute, get her schedule and set up the get together. Boom 5-7 minutes MAX!! But once you've started to date a girl its ok to stay on the phone for a longer period of time.

What I've come to learn is if your a master in seducing women and you can keep that flirty, sexual tension running for an extended period of time then it won't matter how long you talk for because the girl is going to leave that conversation thinking good things about you regardless of whether you talked for 2 minutes or 2 hours.


But like I said, this strategy should only be used once you guys are "seeing eachother" or have been dating for at least a month or more.


And dood don't go to coffee, that so LAME!!!

Mini Golf
Bowling
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Air Hockey
Roller Skating
Zoo
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Another thing I wanted to add. I usually only talk to girls for an extended period on the phone when I know I'm not going to see them for a few days so that leaves good vibes in there head about me. If I knew I was going to see a girl later on in the day I'd only talk to her for a couple minutes on the phone to tell her where/when to meet me.



PIMP
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Slickster

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Make sure you do something fun and exciting.

No relationship talk whatsoever.

Don't qualify her too quickly or easily. If she's really that hot, every guy is after her. Don't let her think your interest level is too high.

Play it cool and make her chase you. She'll love you for it. She'll notice you're different than all the other chumps who hit on her all the time.

At the end of the night no talk about a second date. Just say "Talk to you soon"


Have fun.
 

Avsguy01

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Slickster is got the info you need, nailed it on the head.
 
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Congrats on your first date! Yipeeeee!!! First dates are always deemed to be with a hb9.5 because of the thrill and excitement that comes with the first experience. I'm sure it won't be your last..just don't seem too eager to please her, be a gentleman but not a wuss.

Good skill!
 

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Yeah Congrads,

Talking on the phone for more than you NEED to is not good. I learned the hard way, it was going good untill what I call the 3 hour friendly call. But that was before I found this site filled with great info. Missed out on a 7.5 or so and she played video games smoked weed, she was one of the best girls I have met so far. Any ways congrads and tell how it goes/went and stay away from long phone calls.


Ryan
 
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