"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Have kids, but want more?

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I've been meeting some single moms, some over 40...that say they have children, but still want more. Don't they realize that most men her age likely already have kids, and don't want more?

What's this obsession with having kids at an older age? Don't they realize that being an AARP qualified member and being the only 55 year old with a parent picking up their 10 year old from soccer practice kind of makes you a stand-out among the 20 and 30-something parents?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Maybe its to lure you in

Her: I have kids
You: Nice
Her: I want more
You: I want kids too
Her: Let's LTR

I know some women (with kids) who after divorce, they started dating again and the guy said ''having kids'' was a condition to LTR.
So they likely 1) Like kids 2) Wanna make sure to get in a LTR with a family guy
 

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Do not enter relationship with a single mom, children should only be your own. Leave the luggage carrying part to champs, you are 5% of men, you got better things to do with your life.

These women who over 35 years old don't realize that their ship has already sailed away. They'll do anything to get on board. But on my boat there is a party with top notch models 30 years and younger, no children allowed.
 

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Do not enter relationship with a single mom, children should only be your own. Leave the luggage carrying part to champs, you are 5% of men, you got better things to do with your life.

These women who over 35 years old don't realize that their ship has already sailed away. They'll do anything to get on board. But on my boat there is a party with top notch models 30 years and younger, no children allowed.
Well, I'm at an age where most women DO have kids, so I am open to dating them...if her kids are in the older age bracket, ie high school....but the topic here is about women wanting kids after 40. The last woman I dated called things off with me and her last 40-something boyfriend because we didn't want kids.

I mean, duh...what 40-something dude is going to want to have children...because they've usually already had children.
 

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You're 32, at your age I dated 23 year old. There are women without children. Plus you got everything wrong, the older the child the worst the relationship. If you have to settle it goes down as priority like so:

1. no children
2. child younger than 4 years old ----------- \
3. older child ----------------------------------> relationships don't work out
4. several children -------------------------- /

Don't be a champ, and don't consider women with children, that's the best advice you'll ever get on this forum.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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