"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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hate talking on the phone but...

illmatic1005

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What do u do when ur GF likes to talk on the phone a lot but you dont?

I heard from her friend that my gf told her i never talk with her on the phone

i never do like talking on the phone because:
I rather save up the talking for real life so i have stuff to say.
Everytime i talk to her, her only response is.."Oh"
She always says 'im bored' or whistles, but everytime i try to bring up a topic she jsut says "oh' or ''ok' or 'cool'
She is a boring talker.

Another thing is when i do talk to her, she likes to talk (or just stay on the phone) for 1+ hours....and if i try to leave she gets mad and thinks i dont wanna talk to her.

any advice?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

DoctorLW

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There is nothing wrong with talking on the phone, as long as you do it right. But in this case your conversations sound awful. Just tell her you are busy, if she gets mad tough luck. In truth you ARE busy since these phone conversations sound terrible and you have better things to do with your time.
 

The Deacon

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I had a girl like this. Lay the ground rules, tell her you don't like talking on the phone for an hour, you still love her, blah blah, this relationship isn't going to work out if you don't let me have my privacy, blah blah, she'll come crawling back to you if she decides to leave you.
 
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