"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Has "being alpha" ever backfired on you?

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Lately, I've been trying to stick up (not take non-joking jabs) for myself without trying to be too much of a tight ass. One thing I've run into is when I do talk to a female (seems like less often now since I've been reading this site more and more, although I don't know why) it seems like I'll stop myself from saying certain things because I think it make me sound wimpy.

Is this the wrong state of mind? To me it seems like it might be, because no matter what now days it doesn't seem like I can carry on a conversation with a female past the first 10 or so retorts.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I'm sure that is it.

I have hobbies: music, track.

I have friends: not the coolest guys, but I feel I fit with them pretty damn well.

I have humor.

Thing that stops me dead though is just plain talking to females. I want to do it more, but in a classroom setting I know it to be akward to just go up to a girl I might be interested in and start talking (wouldn't be bad if the class was moving around, etc. but most of the time we're confined to our desks). Maybe I should start imagining they have a penis?
 

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itishe said:
Maybe I should start imagining they have a penis?
Hey dude, whatever turns you on. ;)

Just joking. Yeah, I know what you mean. If you've already read the bible, you just gotta get out there and start approaching. Try doing the bootcamp. It helps a lot when you have weekly goals for approaching.

The more you do it, the easier it gets.
 

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Mini FR:

There's this one girl I wouldn't mind hanging out with. She's probably a 6 or 7 (not the hottest, nor the hottest commodity in the school dating market, but I can tell damn well she'd be a freak). Anywho, one night she was with her friend who was working at a movie store when I picked up a movie.

They told me they were debating about what my tatoo said (It's in Hebrew, and in my name). ONe believe it was my name, the other believed it was my fathers. Anywho they kept asking me about what it said, but I just kept not answering it. We held a pretty good convo, I didn't act too interested but I kept it going by asking follow-ups and leads.

Fastforward the first day back to school after that Easter weekend she walks up to me in the hallway (we don't talk too often) and we do the generic gretting bull****. Anywho then she asks me what it said again, but I didn't give her a straight answer again:D . This time I acted like I had no idea what she was talking about and that she was weird.

Good to keep them guessing aint it?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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It takes practice~~ All you really need is to go and talk to as many women as you can. Trust me/ Just meet them, say HI,smile, date em, joke around, say whatever comes to your mind and eventually it will become natural to talk to women! When u talk to guys do u care if u say something dum?? NO, couse u are used to em, u always around em.. Same shiit with women, you will eventually get used to them/ good luck
 

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So essentially I'm acting as if I would when I'm around a male (just not as gross/crazy)?
 

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I understand how to carry on a conversation, just not the best at implementing.

You listen to what she said, take small bits of information, shoot them back to her in forms of questions/comments, then let her build on and eventually she's talking away until the cows come home.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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The Master Disaster said:
Don't do this though.

Her: I like to study diseases.
You: Do you have a disease?
haha, sounds like something from Napoleon Dynamite.
 

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Not saying something because you're afraid it'll sound wimpy is the wimpiest thing you can do.:woo:
 
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