Vero Della Rosa
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I wanna hear some SS ppl feedback
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Has anyone used Todd v’s System?
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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
RangerMIke
Master Don Juan
It's mostly BS with elements of truth. But he is still selling a dream.
Examples:
(1) You have to take a shot and risk rejection... True. But this is no-brainer?
(2) He says if you want high quality women then you have to be high quality yourself. Then he fvcks up that truth by supposedly teach men how to pretend to be high quality.
(3) He says you have to learn to read women... again true. But then he fvcks up and says that you use this information to manipulate her. IMO you learn to read women to see if she is interested in YOU. That is it, if she isn't attracted then attempts to manipulate her will not work. If she isn't attracted, just move on... it's too much work and your chance of success is low.
(4) Story telling and emotional communicating, True.
(5) Then he closes with 'frame control'... Well if anyone knows me knows I do not believe any man can actually control a woman. But I guess this goes back to (2). If you are pretending to be something that you aren't, then you have to control the narrative. It's basically being a liar and learning how to maintain the illusion long enough to get into her pants.
Summary: It's the Mystery Method just not so over the top. I suppose it will work with younger women without life experience, or with women that are just looking for casual hook-ups. If that's what you want then it should work for you. The problem with these 'systems' is you really aren't fooling any chick. She likely knows exactly what you are doing... trust me when I say women have very active radars they can sniff this out pretty fast. If she likes what she sees, then it will work knowing it's all BS.
Examples:
(1) You have to take a shot and risk rejection... True. But this is no-brainer?
(2) He says if you want high quality women then you have to be high quality yourself. Then he fvcks up that truth by supposedly teach men how to pretend to be high quality.
(3) He says you have to learn to read women... again true. But then he fvcks up and says that you use this information to manipulate her. IMO you learn to read women to see if she is interested in YOU. That is it, if she isn't attracted then attempts to manipulate her will not work. If she isn't attracted, just move on... it's too much work and your chance of success is low.
(4) Story telling and emotional communicating, True.
(5) Then he closes with 'frame control'... Well if anyone knows me knows I do not believe any man can actually control a woman. But I guess this goes back to (2). If you are pretending to be something that you aren't, then you have to control the narrative. It's basically being a liar and learning how to maintain the illusion long enough to get into her pants.
Summary: It's the Mystery Method just not so over the top. I suppose it will work with younger women without life experience, or with women that are just looking for casual hook-ups. If that's what you want then it should work for you. The problem with these 'systems' is you really aren't fooling any chick. She likely knows exactly what you are doing... trust me when I say women have very active radars they can sniff this out pretty fast. If she likes what she sees, then it will work knowing it's all BS.
Vero Della Rosa
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@RangerMIke thanks, this affirms things I’ve felt about him. Are there books or anything you’d recommend instead? Thanks @mikedee
HaleyBaron
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None of this is a science. Women and men dynamics is an art. You can't break it down into some logical steps. Women break the rules all the time. You see them with the "non chad" or you see them with someone who does something against what you perceive. Then users come back here wondering what they did wrong.
Art.
Art.
RangerMIke
Master Don Juan
In general you are correct, but when taken in context to what Todd V is teaching it's relative. He teaches that a man should figure out what a chick wants, the CREATE a frame that meets her needs... it is this frame the dude has to maintain. IMO that is manipulation.
This is different from maintaining your 'frame' based on who you are. You maintain frame to be consistent. With women behaving inconsistently makes them feel uncomfortable.
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
When you look at ToddV, JAL, PWF what do you see? What energy do they have?
Its not about the system or whether it 'works' it is about who you want to be. Its about what you are not what you get. If you follow their systems you become them, then do it if that is what you want to be.
Its not about the system or whether it 'works' it is about who you want to be. Its about what you are not what you get. If you follow their systems you become them, then do it if that is what you want to be.
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
When applying and interviewing for a job, the best candidate has never broken a rule or a law in his life, and is wholely dedicated to random corporation XYZ.
This doesn't describe anybody. So usually the guy who gets hired is the one who's best at pretending to be that mythical perfect employee.
Back to women and dating; Being a true high value man is best, the second best option is to work hard and become high value.
the third best option is to act like a high value man if being one is out of reach.
I agree with this. The only way that manipulation is useful is if a girl likes you, but isn't doing what you want her to do. Like she's too conservative to sleep with you on the second date or something.
I agree. And while I respect the intent of this site, it's really just a bunch of dudes overthinking and overanalyzing everything about women.
HaleyBaron
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It's why I don't take the power dynamic argument seriously from women. Women love power, and they love a powerful man. Whenever I hear a woman bring it up, I just assume she is envious of not having someone like that.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.