picard
Master Don Juan
has anyone here met women from okcupid web site?
does that site have real women?
does that site have real women?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
has anyone here met women from okcupid web site?
- Thread starter picard
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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BeDJ
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Weird, I have met more women on OKC than POF.
SecondHalf
Master Don Juan
I tried it, POF, and match.picard said:
I also live in Toronto.
I found match by far the best.
Like shooting gina's in a barrel.
The problem with all these sites is they expect you to list your age.
I'm forced to either settle for the older (my age +- 5), or the younger with daddy issues.
On the street, age doesn't need to come up until it's too late for it to be a deciding factor.
I gave them all up after Rollo published an article about buffers and that internet dating was one. Will look for it later to post the link if someone doesn't beat me to it.
SH
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
SecondHalf
Master Don Juan
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=125865betheman said:
Stagger Lee
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I have been using POF and OKcupid simultaneously for years. The difference I noticed was the the girls seemed to be better looking and more quality (more 20-sometihngs without kids) on OKcupid.
I was having more success on OK than on pof in the past, but I reworded my profile to be a little less ****y, confident, arrogant etc on OK and my age crossed the 30 year-old barrier and I've been having less success on it than on pof.
As far as online dating (or texting) being a buffer, well a buffer isn't always bad thing. Online dating while certainly not perfect is the changing times. Cold approaching at bars or anywhere for that matter is not very productive anymore. A lot of females date from online and text. To call it a "buffer" and to not use what is really just a tool for meeting women, is pretty silly IMO.To me a real buffer would be not trying to meeting woman at all, seeing prostitutes, or just hitting on help.
I don't like somethings of how OKcupid is set up and changes made to how the search feauture works. OK makes you fill out more info about yourself. But on the other hand you get more info about the girl FWIW. It also somewhat matches you up, and their matching formula is flawed and just gets in the way. Online dating is about having good pics and good looks much like everyday life.
I was having more success on OK than on pof in the past, but I reworded my profile to be a little less ****y, confident, arrogant etc on OK and my age crossed the 30 year-old barrier and I've been having less success on it than on pof.
As far as online dating (or texting) being a buffer, well a buffer isn't always bad thing. Online dating while certainly not perfect is the changing times. Cold approaching at bars or anywhere for that matter is not very productive anymore. A lot of females date from online and text. To call it a "buffer" and to not use what is really just a tool for meeting women, is pretty silly IMO.To me a real buffer would be not trying to meeting woman at all, seeing prostitutes, or just hitting on help.
I don't like somethings of how OKcupid is set up and changes made to how the search feauture works. OK makes you fill out more info about yourself. But on the other hand you get more info about the girl FWIW. It also somewhat matches you up, and their matching formula is flawed and just gets in the way. Online dating is about having good pics and good looks much like everyday life.
SecondHalf
Master Don Juan
Noted Stagger,
For clarification, internet dating served as a buffer for me. My online game was bang on, but online dating was an obstacle for further growth in my case.
As a tool to meet women, it can be very effective.
SH
For clarification, internet dating served as a buffer for me. My online game was bang on, but online dating was an obstacle for further growth in my case.
As a tool to meet women, it can be very effective.
SH
Stagger Lee
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Don't get me wrong. Relying too much on internet dating is not ideal. But the fact is if you are successful with it and meeting girls in person from the intermet, then that is what matters. You should start meeting girls from cold approaching. But to call online dating a buffer and that buffers are universally a bad thing, is incorrect IMO.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
picard
Master Don Juan
how do you guys write the bios on okcupid? I am not a wordsmith at all.
seasonedplayer
Don Juan
Ok Cupid is full of hipsters with liberal political views - I just can't get along with women that think money grows on trees and abortion is their main reason for voting
Plenty of fish is full of single mothers and fat women
Match has the most normal women but quality is not high
Plenty of fish is full of single mothers and fat women
Match has the most normal women but quality is not high
seasonedplayer
Don Juan
Women are mainly hipsters on ok Cupid. So list a bunch of movies and bands that no one has ever heard of. Say that you are passionate about poetry and list your income as 150k+. Then before a date, research Wikipedia so you can talk about the things in your profile. After 2 dates, if you don't get laid, move onpicard said:
I'd say I average about 4-5 lays per year off of OKC (been on there 3 years) and another 4-5 off POF (1 and half years). In my opinion, OKC has higher quality girls. In my experience, most of them tend to be at least college educated. On the other hand POF is full of fuglies and single moms and you really have to sift through the chaff. I did manage to find some real freaks on that website though.
What I've learned:
Bios Just keep it short and to the point. Throw some good pics in there. As long as your grammar isn't atrocious and you don't come off as a complete tool, your bio won't be a major factor in deciding attraction. It's more about not screwing up than it is about impressing people.
Numbers game All game to some extent is a numbers game. But it's much more so in the online world where every half decent girl gets flooded with messages every day. Whether or not a girl happens to take interest in you is pretty much random. That's why you can't invest too much time or effort into any particular broad.
Number close quick There's absolutely no point in messaging back and forth for very long. Do a little bit of BS fluff talk and then go for the number. Try to call instead of text....that way your charming personality can really shine through. If she's going to make you wait for that number, don't waste your time.
Setup the date quick When you call her, you must strike while the iron is hot. Remember, if she's even half decent she's probably getting flooded with messages every day. Get her out, see if you get along and if there's attraction and advance quickly. If you're not feeling it, eject ASAP. More than once, I showed up for a date only to find that the girl completely misrepresented her appearance. I did not hesitate to call these girls on their BS and I ejected immediately.
Quality I can regularly land more attractive girls in the real world. Part of this is because online dating is a massive c0ck fest. But it's also because so much of who you are cannot be communicated through a profile and through messaging back and forth. This is why online dating should only be a supplement to your real world dating.
If I had to boil online dating to down to one thing: you're basically flinging a bunch of sh*t at the wall and seeing what sticks.
What I've learned:
Bios Just keep it short and to the point. Throw some good pics in there. As long as your grammar isn't atrocious and you don't come off as a complete tool, your bio won't be a major factor in deciding attraction. It's more about not screwing up than it is about impressing people.
Numbers game All game to some extent is a numbers game. But it's much more so in the online world where every half decent girl gets flooded with messages every day. Whether or not a girl happens to take interest in you is pretty much random. That's why you can't invest too much time or effort into any particular broad.
Number close quick There's absolutely no point in messaging back and forth for very long. Do a little bit of BS fluff talk and then go for the number. Try to call instead of text....that way your charming personality can really shine through. If she's going to make you wait for that number, don't waste your time.
Setup the date quick When you call her, you must strike while the iron is hot. Remember, if she's even half decent she's probably getting flooded with messages every day. Get her out, see if you get along and if there's attraction and advance quickly. If you're not feeling it, eject ASAP. More than once, I showed up for a date only to find that the girl completely misrepresented her appearance. I did not hesitate to call these girls on their BS and I ejected immediately.
Quality I can regularly land more attractive girls in the real world. Part of this is because online dating is a massive c0ck fest. But it's also because so much of who you are cannot be communicated through a profile and through messaging back and forth. This is why online dating should only be a supplement to your real world dating.
If I had to boil online dating to down to one thing: you're basically flinging a bunch of sh*t at the wall and seeing what sticks.