"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

Read more...

Has a man who relentlessly badgers a woman for sex until she finally gives in committed rape?

MatureDJ

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 30, 2006
Messages
12,733
Reaction score
5,152
According to this women, it seems so:

https://medium.com/@emmalindsay/whose-pain-counts-6e6b3dd287f5
Many years ago, I had sex with a man when I didn’t want to. I said no a thousand times, then said yes once, so I consented. It’s not rape.

At least, I think I said yes. It was so long ago I’m not even sure at this point. But, I must have, I told my therapist. I’m sure I did.

Who are you trying to convince? she asked me.

Every time I call him a rapist, in my head, I hear the voice of a thousand men protesting. But you said yes! You’re a hypocrite! You consented, so it’s your own fault.

My own fault. I said yes so it’s my own fault.

At least, I think I said yes. I don’t actually remember saying yes. But, I must have, right?

Let’s assume I said yes.

Why does one little yes undo a thousand nos? End of the day, he knew I didn’t want to have sex with him. Because I said no. Repeatedly. Over and over. So, why did he keep asking? And, why did I “say yes?”

Because, in that moment, I believed the pain he would experience if he did not get sexual release was more important than the pain I would experience by having sex I didn’t want. Because he kept asking me. Why would he keep asking me if he wasn’t going to feel a lot of pain?

I was wrong though. That sexual encounter has haunted me for years. I can’t imagine having to jack off would have caused him anything more than a night of irritation.
This response is great:
I see — so if a woman repeatedly asks a man to buy her an expensive piece of jewelry, and he declines every time, but finally gives in because he’s become tired of the nagging, by your heuristics, that woman has robbed him.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

Read more...

highSpeed

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 20, 2011
Messages
1,022
Reaction score
896
According to this women, it seems so:

https://medium.com/@emmalindsay/whose-pain-counts-6e6b3dd287f5

This response is great:
It's a wrap, western civilization is done. More anecdotal evidence and research shows that the minute feminism is allowed to run amok, those civilizations fall. So essentially then, all of the stories you've heard about women who told the man no and eventually ended up with him because he was persistent equates to rape? What the f*ck kind of screwed up logic is that? That's the only reason we've ever gotten anywhere as a society, because men kept at it until something was created, built or f*cked!!!!
 

dude99

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 1, 2016
Messages
2,550
Reaction score
3,105
Age
53
"Until she finally gives in." Is consent. If she didn't give in, and it happened then that would be rape.
 

dude99

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 1, 2016
Messages
2,550
Reaction score
3,105
Age
53
This woman regrets having sex with this man
Nothing more. Regret isn't rape.

Reminds me of the william kennedy smith trial in the 90's where he was having consentual sex with a girl. Hours into their session he called out the wrong girls name, she told him to stop. He stopped, she then has him charged with rape. Only for it to come out in court that she consented to everything and got upset after he called out the wrong girls name.

They labelled it regret. And the judge told her point blank "regret isn't rape." And the case was dismissed
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

Read more...

corrector

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 12, 2009
Messages
10,397
Reaction score
4,066
Who cares? A person like that could be committing sexual harassment, or call 911 and says she feels threatened (especially if it's a white woman). Why would someone badger a lady like that for sex, isn't that humiliating because you are being rejected? How would that same person feel if that girl threw herself at someone she liked?
 

wifehunter

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 6, 2015
Messages
5,145
Reaction score
3,302
Age
52
Location
Hoe County, California
One things for sure, the guy has no dignity.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

Read more...

wifehunter

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 6, 2015
Messages
5,145
Reaction score
3,302
Age
52
Location
Hoe County, California

ubercat

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 6, 2015
Messages
3,671
Reaction score
2,309
Location
Australia
Well if he doesn't spend much time at it and pesters all the girls you know it's kind of jerk game. If he enjoys doing that he should marry her
 
Top