"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Prodoge

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Recently something happenend and i need to talk to this gurl about it to get some answers.

Today I texted her basically saying:
"Hey, when is the next time we will see each other? Got to have a talk with you."

She answerd :"Whenever you want"

After texting back and forth about this subject a little i texted her:" I'll tell you what, tomorrow afternoon we go to *lake name* for a walk and we can talk about this"

She agreed off bat.

Is she expecting something from me? In other words does she believe it is a date?

For me it clearly is not, the purpose of this is to get some information out of her.

And I forgot to mention that in the past I was interested in her but when I asked her out she found excuses not to go.
 
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I don't think she will think it's a date. She will think you are being weird, saying you have to 'have a talk' with her about something that can't be said over text. What you should have done instead is ask her out on a proper date.

There are two things, as is TMK's way:

-NEVER, EVER verbally explain your interest in a woman. You must covertly SHOW her how you feel, by dating her and fcking her in the right way.

-It is never a man's job to bring up the 'relationship' status, regardless of whether it's just friends, or something more. The woman is the gate-keeper of the sex and the man is the gate-keeper of the commitment.

Gotta be honest man, depending on what you were planning to 'say', I think you're gonna have a hard time saving this one.

But for me it is no date! Lol
I really need to talk to her
FFS man, go and have your girly little 'talk' then, and stop wasting my time.
 
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I don't think she will think it's a date. She will think you are being weird, saying you have to 'have a talk' with her about something that can't be said over text. What you should have done instead is ask her out on a proper date.

There are two things, as is TMK's way:

-NEVER, EVER verbally explain your interest in a woman. You must covertly SHOW her how you feel, by dating her and fcking her in the right way.

-It is never a man's job to bring up the 'relationship' status, regardless of whether it's just friends, or something more. The woman is the gate-keeper of the sex and the man is the gate-keeper of the commitment.

Gotta be honest man, depending on what you were planning to 'say', I think you're gonna have a hard time saving this one.

But for me it is no date! Lol
I really need to talk to her
 

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what do you need to talk to her about ?

the subject may hold clues as to whether SHE see could see it as a date or not

for example if you are asking her about work or some other serious subject then no she probably wouldn't consider it a date

however if it is just about you 2 then yes she could potentially see it as a date .....
 

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FFS man, go and have your girly little 'talk' then, and stop wasting my time.
Listen, she is the only one who has the answers to my questions. I can't talk to my closest male friends or my parents because they simply couldn't answer me. No need to become aggressive about it.

I am really starting to believe certain people on here have some issues other than not being able to pick up girls...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Some of us are fed up with answering the same old questions that have been done a thousand times before; your original post bordered on 'let me fckn google that on your lazy ass behalf' dude. I was gracious enough to humour you for at least one response however.

You provided half the story in your original post, only for it to turn out you only see this girl as a 'friend' anyway. Therefore you're either suffering a massive case of denial, or you are ignorant as pig sh!t. I dare say it's a sad combination of both.

One of the moderators needs to lock this thread down; it's fckn worthless crap.
 

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It's a date.... Anytime you hang alone with a girl and get info from her, it's a date. Especially relaxing at s lake and going for a walk.
 

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Is she expecting something from me? In other words does she believe it is a date?
I don't understand why you care what she thinks, if you yourself don't even call it a date
 
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