Handsome or strong and dominant , which score better

[evan12]

I know in Tender age, men with better looks seem to be getting women more easily than men with other qualities. But what about the biological need for the woman for a dominant strong man. Which man woman will really prefer : Handome with average dominance or high dominance with average look ?

 

[bcude]

Why does it matter? Evolve into the best man YOU can be in every area.

Handsome gets some attention but dominance makes them wet.
I'd rather choose the masculine trait since behavior always trump looks when it comes to attraction (and life).

 

[biggoal]

Why does it matter? Evolve into the best man YOU can be in every area.

Handsome gets some attention but dominance makes them wet.
I'd rather choose the masculine trait since behavior always trump looks when it comes to attraction (and life).

Tend to agree. Everyone says good looking men do better but in real world as I said before I see high end hbs with guys who are not so good looking so they must have a more masculine fetish that women have.

I mean look at President Trump. Hes not a very good looking guy and hes overweight and overall not in good shape. Of course one has the money argument there.

Women are a bit different. They will settle with guys who are not as good looking, rough around the edges, fat etc. If they exhibit these other qualities like masculine acting. I see more higher end hbs around here with rough sloppy looking guys than with the gq type looking guys.

While women care about looks to an extent, they have many other factors that they care about that overrides looks.

While us men really nothing overrides looks. It's all about the looks for us when going for girls.

Like a woman might settle with a rough, slob of a guy because hes dominate. While us will never settle with a fat broad even if she has money.

 

[bcude]

Really good looking men also face the same problems as women who are models, they base their identity and their self image solely on their looks since it's been reinforced for them all their life, this is usually not a good thing since looks can change and having a bad hairday leads to feeling down rather than basing how you feel on your personality which doesn't fluctuate due to superficial reasons.
Really good looking people also tend to not have the most interesting personality and be quite shallow because of the same reason.

I believe real life evidence and abit of knowledge in human evolution paint a clear picture when it comes to looks vs behavior.

Trump is attractive because of his status and the fact that he's a winner. Not because of money or his personality, money is never the thing that attracts women, it's the fact that the guy is successful. Women always want the top dawg.

 

[BURT MCQUEEN]

I know in Tender age, men with better looks seem to be getting women more easily than men with other qualities. But what about the biological need for the woman for a dominant strong man. Which man woman will really prefer : Handome with average dominance or high dominance with average look ?

Watch nature

 

[biggoal]

Really good looking men also face the same problems as women who are models, they base their identity and their self image solely on their looks since it's been reinforced for them all their life, this is usually not a good thing since looks can change and having a bad hairday leads to feeling down rather than basing how you feel on your personality which doesn't fluctuate due to superficial reasons.
Really good looking people also tend to not have the most interesting personality and be quite shallow because of the same reason.

I believe real life evidence and abit of knowledge in human evolution paint a clear picture when it comes to looks vs behavior.

Trump is attractive because of his status and the fact that he's a winner. Not because of money or his personality, money is never the thing that attracts women, it's the fact that the guy is successful. Women always want the top dawg.

I guess that's the one advantage men have is that it's not all about physical looks when it comes to ladies. A fat, ugly woman for example no matter how much money or status and that she has she simply wont get as much attention as an ugly famous and rich guy like trump.

You see more women with ugly guys than decent looking guys with fat or ugly women.

Looks matter for women but there are many other things they take into factor.

Us men it's mainly looks only we care about.

 

[AJ84]

Tend to agree. Everyone says good looking men do better but in real world as I said before I see high end hbs with guys who are not so good looking so they must have a more masculine fetish that women have.

I mean look at President Trump. Hes not a very good looking guy and hes overweight and overall not in good shape. Of course one has the money argument there.

Women are a bit different. They will settle with guys who are not as good looking, rough around the edges, fat etc. If they exhibit these other qualities like masculine acting. I see more higher end hbs around here with rough sloppy looking guys than with the gq type looking guys.

While women care about looks to an extent, they have many other factors that they care about that overrides looks.

While us men really nothing overrides looks. It's all about the looks for us when going for girls.

Like a woman might settle with a rough, slob of a guy because hes dominate. While us will never settle with a fat broad even if she has money.

Women don’t associate fat slobs with dominant men. I mean how dominant is a man if he can’t even manage his own body weight?if you are fat that means you are lazy and lack control around eating. Lazy and lack of control are not dominant traits.

When a woman gushes about a dominant man, she’s not picturing a fat slob, that’s for sure.

I mean there’s a reason why the 50 shades of grey actor was fit and hot. How well would that movie had gone over for ladies if Christian Grey was played by Jack Black?

Honestly, sometimes it seems like some men think that just being dominant is going bypass his physical appearance to attract hot girls. Like it’s a quick ‘fix’ - act dominant and she won’t care about my beer gut and man boobs. If’s he’s a fat slob it’s not going to make hot women want to f**k him unless she’s into chubby men.

The goal should be her wanting to f**k him because she likes his look and the thought of f**king him makes her horny. Nothing trumps genuine sexual desire.

And regarding status and money? There is a huge difference between her being attracted to you, vs her being attracted to what she can get from you. One is genuine, the other is not.

If Trump didn’t have status and money he would have to resort to hookers and sex tourism to get with hot girls.

 

[Who Dares Win]

You wanna bang 20yrs old girls you need Ls, you wanna bang 28+ yrs old girls you need lMS.

You dont get one night stands with hotties just met because you are strong and dominant and trust me Im far from being handsome.

A woman may have sex with you cause the finds you attractive while considering you an idiot as much as a woman can have sex with you while being lukewarm about your body but attracted from your charisma yet the one who gets his d1ck genuinely sucked with genuine voracity is the first one only.

 

[zekko]

Women don’t associate fat slobs with dominant men. I mean how dominant is a man if he can’t even manage his own body weight?if you are fat that means you are lazy and lack control around eating. Lazy and lack of control are not dominant traits.

I've known some fat guys who were socially dominant though. They always made themselves the center of what was going on, always had to be the center of attention and knew how to make that happen, were opportunistic at grabbing power. It may have been driven by insecurity but the results were the same.

Not saying they were ladies men either, but they had some options.

 

[thinker]

Nothing beats masculine dominance, women simply can't deny it. Think about the feminist that rails against the patriarchy and toxic masculinity and spreads her legs willingly for the first caveman that comes along while her male feminist orbiters are stuck wanking to land whale porn. It is true that being fit is helpful but even when I have had a belly I have been able to pull, obviously when I have been fit it has been better.

 

[evan12]

You wanna bang 20yrs old girls you need Ls, you wanna bang 28+ yrs old girls you need lMS.

You dont get one night stands with hotties just met because you are strong and dominant and trust me Im far from being handsome.

A woman may have sex with you cause the finds you attractive while considering you an idiot as much as a woman can have sex with you while being lukewarm about your body but attracted from your charisma yet the one who gets his d1ck genuinely sucked with genuine voracity is the first one only.

So are you saying dominance and being strong does not make young women wet and they dont find that sexy ? Why then girls from early age date bullies? Why being biker or risk taker automatically make you sexy in the eyes of women?
I am here just trying to discuss what really make women find the man sexy beside the look.

Why does it matter? Evolve into the best man YOU can be in every area.

I am already married and not looking but like I said just a discussion to find a link between biology and what is in real life. There are too many despreate men because they think only looks is what women really find sexy, but I want to argue dominance and strength can also be added to the list .

 

[thinker]

Looks matter but the guys that think it is all are the black pilled incel crowd. The problem with the red pill is that too many guys think in only black and white, when clearly there is more to it than looks. Just look at the height debate. When I was in high school one of my teammates was a 6'4" defensive end and he couldn't get laid to save his life. He was very timid and shy around girls and was always very nice, on the other hand I am under 5'7" and have had plenty of success with women that were taller than me including a blond that was an ex college basketball player that towered over me at 6'1".

 

[Who Dares Win]

So are you saying dominance and being strong does not make young women wet and they dont find that sexy ? Why then girls from early age date bullies? Why being biker or risk taker automatically make you sexy in the eyes of women?
I am here just trying to discuss what really make women find the man sexy beside the look.

In order to be a bully at school you have to be physically bigger and well made, if you are fat, skinny or weak you surely dont bully people around.

Have you ever seen a strong fat guy with an ugly face bullying other kids at school and getting attention from hot girls?

Dominance is a really important quality when it comes of attracting women but it cant outweight an ugly look before a certain age.

You ask which one between handsome and dominant score better and well as much as we would like to think that what we can control is more important than what we cant control, its not necessarily the case.

An hot guy working as a bar man gets women GENUINELY attracted in him much more than an average guy running a company of 100 people and awarded from the major as saviour of the town.

The hot barman gets a blowj0b in the back alley that same night, the second guy needs to invite the girls in his place, take them to places and the sex he gets is partially attraction and partially "securing from her side".

Talking about dominance, even mobsters which are top dominance since they basically "win" any quarrel they have, get women according to their look, the fat ugly one gets an ugly wife generally.

I know thats not what we would like to hear but thats the truth.

 

[biggoal]

Looks matter but the guys that think it is all are the black pilled incel crowd. The problem with the red pill is that too many guys think in only black and white, when clearly there is more to it than looks. Just look at the height debate. When I was in high school one of my teammates was a 6'4" defensive end and he couldn't get laid to save his life. He was very timid and shy around girls and was always very nice, on the other hand I am under 5'7" and have had plenty of success with women that were taller than me including a blond that was an ex college basketball player that towered over me at 6'1".

6 1? That's just too tall and manly for a woman no matter what her face looks like. 5 10 is limit for me height wise.

 

[Xenom0rph]

A guy whose handsome AND strong & dominant is a woman's dream-come-true.....

A guy whose not handsome but is strong and dominant is gonna catch a s3xual harassment case.....

There's no way to spin it or deny it: looks matter.

 

[AJ84]

In most amateur porn uploaded by normal people the guy has a dad bod and looks forgettable. The woman is usually hotter and the main focus.

You would have to look very long and hard to find porn uploaded by regular people where the guy is a stud or looks better than the woman.

In most amateur porn you wonder how a slob like him could ever get a woman like her naked.

Women like to tell themselves that they only go for brad Pitt look alikes. But if you look at their sexual history there are a lot of questionable dudes.

The attractive females I grew up with all have regrettable men they’ve hooked up with.

We all know that one ugly guy with the reputation who somehow is able to go through every girl in the social circle.


Being handsome is just going to get the guy noticed. There is a negotiation phase too. If the girl doesn’t submit to the handsome guy, nothing is going to happen. The handsome guy has too much pride, ego, and abundance.

It’s not as simplistic as putting two attractive people in a room together and babies will happen.

A lot of women end up with guys that are willing to tolerate them.

Most porn is made for men right? Most men are not buff Greek gods right? Porn actresses are paid to f**k men, it’s a performance, like bad acting, without clothes. Straight men who watch porn are not focused on the naked thrusting man (I’m assuming lol). What the man looks like, I assume, is not the point of porn for straight men. In fact, it’s probably less ego crushing for men to see average joe pounding the hot young fit girl rather than The Chad.

But porn is not real life. Even a lot of ‘amateur porn’ is acting.

Yes some attractive women date men who are not good looking. Some attractive men date women who are not that good looking either.
When we see average looking with above average looking people we don’t know the back story. Maybe the less attractive one used to be hotter, maybe the hotter one settled, maybe the hotter one is using the less hot one, or, maybe there is a genuine attraction to the less hot one. We don’t know. I’m not saying that hot women never date less hot men.
My point is women typically don’t sexually swoon over ugly men just because he acts dominant or has status. To me, this is like the lie that fat women tell themselves that if they are super nice and put out on demand and swallow and stuff, the jock will pick her as his girlfriend. Who cares what you look like dude, just act dominant and women will be sexually attracted to you despite the tree growing out of your face.

And when I say attraction, I’m referring to sexual attraction, not attraction to the social connections or the fun or the free bottle service etc she can get by f**king the ugly guy with dominance and social cred.

The hot girl with options for hot guys typically is not going to get wet while fantasizing over a dominant ugly man. She may date him if he has status, money, or something else that benefits her though, but she’s not likely sexually attracted to him.

Unless she is into ugly guys. Some women are.

 

[AJ84]

A guy whose handsome AND strong & dominant is a woman's dream-come-true.....

A guy whose not handsome but is strong and dominant is gonna catch a s3xual harassment case.....

There's no way to spin it or deny it: looks matter.

Yes they do. It’s funny to me how some men here are so quick to call women shallow in all other areas of life but when it comes to what she finds sexually attractive it’s like no, women are deeper they look beyond the ugly and see the manly man inside.

BS, sorry to burst that bubble.

 

[AJ84]

Just to clarify, when I say ugly. I mean ugly. Like what a person would reasonably consider ugly because my understanding of the thread topic is good looks vs ugly yet dominant manly man.

 

[Mazer]

Handsome works better on OLD and if you cold approach. It’s very difficult to attract women if you are ugly and dominant. Let’s be realistic. There is one exception, it’s something stormrider is always preaching, and that’s Social Circle. Not so attractive guys with game can be successful with attractive women in their social circle. Most of the the ugly, fat dudes who date hotties met through social circle. I see it all the time.

 

[zekko]

My point is women typically don’t sexually swoon over ugly men just because he acts dominant or has status. To me, this is like the lie that fat women tell themselves that if they are super nice and put out on demand and swallow and stuff, the jock will pick her as his girlfriend. Who cares what you look like dude, just act dominant and women will be sexually attracted to you despite the tree growing out of your face.

The "Looks Don't Matter" bit was a selling point of PUA gurus who were trying to make money by selling the idea to undesirable men.
And for the most part, I agree that if a guy is straight up butt ugly, he has an uphill battle ahead of him.
But for most guys whose looks won't frighten children I do believe there is more to sexual desire than just looks.
Some of the most experienced guys here will tell you that status will get you laid quicker than anything.